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home 7.1 releases - general discussion
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To whom it does not know: the home 7.1 channel movie releases include Blu-ray and UltraHD Blu-ray as physical media, and web streaming and download; there were no DVD, LD or other media AFAIK; albeit on theaters there were two 7.1 formats - SDDS with left, left extra, center, right extra, right, surround left, surround right, LFE, and Dolby Surround 7.1 with left, center, right, surround left, surround right, surround back left, surround back right, LFE - only the latter channel configuration is used at home. Not sure about DTS 7.1 and if any movie release in DCP used the SDDS speaker configuration. From now on, 7.1 = Dolby configuration - three screen channels, four surround channels, plus LFE.

OK, back on track: if a title had not a 7.1 (or immersive sound) theatrical release, the home version with 7.1 is not faithful to the theatrical mix, hence the extra back surround channels were created using the left and right surround (and back center when available on 6.1 releases).

According to Blu-ray stats - 🔍http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Stats.php (yes, I know it's not updated, but I have found only this for now) there were (up to around March 2018) 839 releases with 7.1 channels, or 6.61%; only 0.46% with 6.1, around 70% with 5.1 and 5.0, 12% stereo and 6% mono; until now more 7.1 releases came - as well as with other audio tracks, in particular Dolby Atmos and DTS:X, so I guess the percentage would be not noticeably different.

I made my homework, and according to some sources, there are around 800 titles on BD/UHD-BD with 7.1 track - remember, that 839 was referred to releases, with multiple ones referring to a single title.

Less than 250 of them were released in theaters with immersive sound (Dolby Atmos, DTS:X or Auro3D) and around 50 exclusively on Dolby Surround 7.1; then, about 500 titles have "created" back surround!!!

Of these 500:
  • a dozen or so had 6.1 theatrical release
  • at least 200 were released prior 2010, when Dolby Surround 7.1 came out
  • the others may have used DCP 7.1 theatrical mix

So, we are left with AT LEAST more than 200 titles out of 800 - a whopping 25% - with created back surround; this would reduce the overall percentage to around 5%.

I'm sure that also a lot of 5.1 releases are not true to the theatrical versions too, still the percentage is overwhelming - 7.1 are less than 1/10th of 5.1

Conclusion: there is no rush to get a 7.1 sound system if you already have a good 5.1! Big Grin

Further info:
Posted by Audyssey Labs in June 2012 (🔍https://audyssey.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/ar...l-sources-):
Quote:There are almost no instances of 7.1 content that is produced that way for the movie.  The so-called 7.1 Blurays take the original 5.1 movie mix and use a matrix method to generate the additional Back Surround channels.

Posted by F. Hudson Miller in March 2013 - 🔍http://www.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/f16...28/p1.html:
Quote:We may on occasion generate a 7.1 if the film has only been mastered in 5.1 (that usually just some minor re-channeling)

and just two treats to end:
Quote:Smith employed DTS Neural Upmix software to remix "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" from 5.1 and other elements to 7.1 for BD release this year

Quote:Steven Spielberg's 1975 hit will come home in "digitally remastered and fully restored" form with an upmixed 7.1 DTS-HD MA soundtrack
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home 7.1 releases - general discussion - by spoRv - 2021-10-10, 05:44 PM

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