[Help] Cinema DTS locomotive-like noise after 2 minutes?

[deleted user]

I got a few Cinema DTS discs and on one of them, in each file after precisely 2 minutes a locomotive-like noise comes in, garbling the audio and making it unusable.

Any idea what this might be?

It does not occur in the trailers-file, only in the main files.

Update: Here's a short example of what I mean: https://www.sendspace.com/file/qzmk1y

[Jetrell Fo]

That is not a locomotive noise, it is a fast forward/skipping audio noise. Are the audio files .aue as I suspect they are? If so, they aren't decoding due to the protection on those discs.

[deleted user]

The files were .apx files. I renamed them to .aud. The first 2 minutes always decode fine, afterwards it's all full of this. You think anything can be done about it? I googled and the movie is from 2011, so you may just be right about the encryption.

[Jetrell Fo]

Tom, what film is it? We may have to find a way to do this.



From the Film-Tech Forums:

I think APX was the file format for a disc watermarking system that was being tested back then. The discs were individually watermarked, so that if there was a pirated copy of a movie that surfaced on the internet, and the audio was captured from a DTS disc (either by recording in the auditorium or tapping the analog output), a forensics team would be able to identify which disc was used on that playback.

It was pretty cool technology, but in the end cost prohibitive and never saw a rollout.

[deleted user]

It should be Kung Fu Panda 2. It's definitely some Kung Fu Panda going by the first 2 minutes of the reels, but I don't know the movies enough to verify whether it's part 2.

Interesting. Though I doubt this noise is purely watermarking, as it is .... fairly audible. Fairly strongly audible.

[Jetrell Fo]

It should be Kung Fu Panda 2. It's definitely some Kung Fu Panda going by the first 2 minutes of the reels, but I don't know the movies enough to verify whether it's part 2.

Interesting. Though I doubt this noise is purely watermarking, as it is .... fairly audible. Fairly strongly audible.

If you want to send me the audio via WeTransfer I can check it out.

[deleted user]

Okay, I'll do that when I feel a bit less lazy!