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Gonna update the forum in like 20 minutes, expect 403 error. Should be quicker this time
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It's too early for Christmas films for me. I wait at least until the week leading up to Christmas.
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About 20 Years ago, my mother witnessed Christmas Music in a Mall... in July. The Played a Song from a german Punk-Rock Band "Die Roten Rosen" the Song was "Weihnachtsmann vom Dach" ("Santa Clause from the attic")
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A couple years back the seasonal music channel on my cable tv started the Xmas music at 3pm on Halloween! The horror...the horror...
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They were selling Christmas cookies 2 months ago here already
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I was going to say no but then I realized it's already Dec. Oi... So yeah, have at it!
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Is it too early to start watching the Christmas films?
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Yup.
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wow...
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LOL ... "Sodom And Gomorrah" (1962) directed by Robert Alfrich and starring Stewart Granger. Care to volunteer? Smile
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Honestly never expected a hobbyist film-restoration group to double as a conservative Christian podium...
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And speaking of TURDina ... alas poor DISNEY CORPORATION ... http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entert...77971.html ... "Sodom And Gomorrah" restoration anyone?
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Ha, i was looking at the same thing just yesterday.
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An interesting article on CDS Cinema Digital sound including some pictures of the equipment: http://www.in70mm.com/news/2017/cds/index.htm
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Okay, I did a little writeup of my findings in the technical discussions forum. Hopefully it will lead to a method being established
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This might be it: http://elastix.isi.uu.nl/
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I doubt it's the same program but all I could find
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If elastic aspect is indeed what poita is referring to, I'm unsure as to how that'd help.
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And it's mac only
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Elastix works well, but is slow.
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I actually tried the same two processes: f_align which I saw in the Mad, Mad World restoration doc when they aligned the LD to a film print and running an image sequence in a macro through PS
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@Synnove: I'd like a thread also since I have need of the same thing. Alignment of two very different pics.
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The forum software has been updated, sorry for the downtime. If you notice any bugs, please start a thread in bug reports forum (I could miss it here)
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yes, but usually for official release, the distortion remain the same across the whole movie, so once you have found the right settings, it could work... let us know!
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Does that involve manually specifying the transforms?
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@Synnove: once I had the same problem, and solved it (with a LOT of work) using warpresize (http://avisynth.nl/index.php/SimpleResize) and reformer (http://www.avisynth.nl/users/vcmohan/Ref...ormer.html)
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Well my own playing around with it didn't really work so I'm going to post on Doom 9. If I find a method that works I'll for sure make a thread documenting.
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Oooo ... interesting. Maybe Synnove would make a new thread to document the info, developements, and testing (with lots of pictures)? Smile Possibly under "Requests, proposals, help" for the technique? Or elsewhere for the actual project?
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Hah!
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Wow that's a great idea! Inspired me to do some searching on Doom 9. Found this: http://forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-154739.html
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Wild guess, but how about cleverly manipulating MVTools? They have frame interpolation. It's meant for time-based interpolation, but perhaps you could trick it into doing it for two differently warped frames and somehow morph one into the other.
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It might be worth trying a couple of still frames to see if the distortion is consistent throughout the film. Good luck!
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I know the proper process for combining the information from the two transfers to replace the missing blacks or highlights, but getting the frames aligned is the difficult part.
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It's Star Trek The Motion Picture; I'm using the HDTV cap and the Blu-Ray. The blu has many instances of clipped highlights and crushed blacks to the point where the information is completely gone. Unfortunately they are 2 diff scans so the frame geometry is different.
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@ Synnove "crushed blacks/blown highlights" -- this may occur on one of the R-G-B separations and might be fixable using adjusted values from a non-crushed/blown separation.
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@Synnove what film is this? Have you checked for picture info BTB and WTW
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@Synnove that sounds like a complicated undertaking. No idea how to do it personally but good luck
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I've tried using f_align in nuke and align layers in photoshop but they only do linear transforms; the geometry differences in the scans are non linear. I want to align them to restore the detail in the crushed blacks to the clearer blu transfer.
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Does anyone have a method for aligning two separate filmscans? I've two HD sources (one HDTV that has a LOT of compression and dirt), one that's BLU but crushed blacks/blown highlights. They are two diff scans so the geometry is slightly different.
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@Koopa Luath "I'm additionally considering removing [fill in the blank]'s name ...": -- :-O Slippery slope that (even for a fan-edit). Just ask GL.
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Once HBO and Fox cut ties with you, and an entire film starring you is shelved....yep
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Although not in the same league as Weinstein, what Louie CK did is still quite bad, and I don't see his career recovering from it.
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I don't see Affleck or Louie CK's escapades as even in the same league as Weinstien or Spacey.
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Hell yeah... More tempered movie releases to whitewash movie (producing) history... Like Disney's Fantasia... Heck the scandal should be resolved and worked on properly, that it is harder to happen again, and that victims have faith and find strength sooner to open up, but trying to delete the names of the aggressors from producing history, is surely not the right way, that just leads to forgetting things...
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lol
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I'm additionally considering removing Harv's name from my chroma-less open matte restoration of Reservoir Dogs.
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I'm considering doing a restoration of Princess Mononoke that replaces Miramax's logo with a contemporary one from Walt Disney Pictures.
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I personally think that once a film has been sent to the cinemas, that's it, no backsies, no replacing and no changing. And maybe in 50 years people could watch these films without the reservations of 2017 audiences.
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No getting Christopher Plummer to retroactively play those roles here...
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And to make it more relevant to our forum, what should be done with films made by and with people we know did terrible things? Views about removing Weinstein's name from his films have been raised, and while that can be made quiet easily, the same can't be said about Spacey in some films that I really like, like "LA Confidential"
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And Singer returned to the X men franchise, and that made money. Weinstein hasn't made a commercial hit in like 5 years, and James Woods said that it could definitely be the reason he was finally exposed.
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There was actually a documentary on that, "An open secret", which names people that were involved, but that was before it was trendy
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Corey Feldman started sort of a crusade against Paedophilia in Hollywood, and if that gets public, Singer will probably be exposed as well
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In any case, pedophilia of any sort can be a killer. Just ask Scott Freeman and the creator of Rurouni Kenshin.
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Oh.
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No, Spacey was 26. Rapp was 14.
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I'm 27, and I can't see myself going for a 14 year old girl, it's clearly something with him
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26, huh? That can hardly be considered underage by any definition of the word.
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He was 26
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Remind me when he went after Anthony Rapp, again?
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Spacey went after underage boys (not paedophilia, but still). It's not the same thing.
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That is especially true in the entertainment industry, because creative people can't set boundaries to themselves, for good or bad
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Kevin Spacey proves that you can't behave around men that way, either.
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Personally, I think it's a trend that will eventually go away. It's lessons will be learnt, though. But I think that will mean less women in the top jobs, because we see it in the private sector. Men feel that they can't behave around women the same as they behave around men, and that means less women in the top jobs
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I'm pretty sure John Lasseter knew he was getting exposed and so he stepped down pre-emptively. I'm surprised Bryan Singer has been relatively unscathed so far.
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Even today, it doesn't look like the nuclear fallout from the Tungsten Bomb (W being short for both Tungsten and Weinstein) is going to stop anytime soon.
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But John Lasseter leaving Pixar before a single accusation was made...man...that hurts. He knows he done wrong.
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With every man that is exposed, it seems like he examined how the previous men reacted to the accusations and tried to do it better. Louis CK came out the best among those who's career is probably over because he figured that well, he can't deny, he can't come out of the closet, and he can't claim to have issues, so he just let some lawyers draft an apology.
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@ cs The thing about affleck's exposed groping (or, to be more precise, the reminding of said groping) is that he was one of the first to denounce Weinstein, and while hypocricy is a given in show business, when you grope women against their will and denounce another man for mistreating women, it's better if you keep your mouth shut.
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Oh, god, I forgot about the Cushing CGI face. So bad I suppresed it..
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R1 was OK, but I just could not stand the CGI Peter Cushing. Or that blind force-sensitive guy. Anyway, I'm not watching VIII.
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Yes the Affleck gropping is hardley what I would call part of the 'Great Hollywood Sex Scandal of 2017'
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Affleck and Depp seem to make it through this scandal rather fine, considering they are performers, and accusations hurt their public image a lot more than those behind the camera. Weinstein could theoretically make a comeback (By using someone else). Spacey can't.
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With Affleck it was groping, mostly. Standard Jock behaviour, nothing surprising, considering the way he behaves himself in public. But the thing with the costumes is mostly on Snyder, I think.
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Just that he had been implicated in the Great Hollywood Sex Scandal of 2017 and forced to apologize for his role in it. Brett Ratner wasn't anywhere near as lucky--WB dumped him almost as soon as his name came up.
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What has been revealed about Ben Affleck?
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Anyway, in light of what's been revealed about Ben Affleck and Brett Ratner, is anyone surprised about the Amazons' costumes in "Justice League"?
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So far in 2017, the most enjoyable film for me was "Baby Driver", and I'm waiting to see if watching "Dunkirk" on home video manages to replicate some of the actual anxiety I felt while watching on IMAX.
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I actually liked TFA. Yes, it was very much "been there, done that", but it did something very few films in the last decade managed to do. It kept me extremely entertained for 2 hours. The script and characters were engaging, Kylo was a pretty well thought out (if a bit angsty) villain, and it stands the test of the 3rd and 4th viewing, which many films fail at, including R1, which, while having a killer 3rd act, has a severely problematic 1st act. Even if TLJ turns out to be a remake of ESB, if it's a good remake, I'll probably still enjoy it.
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Feallan then you basically said you want george lucas script for episode 7 but tweaked a bit
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Why is R1 a pointless film? I personally loved it. It filled in a lot of blanks, gave more meaning to some old characters, and broadened the Star Wars universe, which was really needed. The other prequels made the universe seem tiny, everyone was so tightly inter-related, seeing other lives play out, I found really interesting and enjoyable. I'd like to see more film that aren't about characters we already know.
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In my opinion both TFA and R1 were soulless popcorn flicks and it's foolish to think Last Jedi will be any different. If you don't care about the story in these movies (and you shouldn't, beacause it's godawful), what redeeming qualities are left? I guess VFX was okay, but does it matter when the rest of the movie is so bad you don't even care how it ends?
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True enough. But then, does everyone really care about the story?
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True, haha!
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Also: diplomatic mission, my ass.
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It's just a pointless film. You don't need to see what happened before. This is a clear example of Disney "milking the cow". Plus, Vader being super "badass" at the end and doing awesome tricks when in the next movie the duel between him and Ben is pretty dull in comparison.
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And, relatively speaking, by "two decades before" I'm referring to the official timeline, not any gap between the release of any two movies.
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Guy's not as much of a wuss as he had been nearly two decades before, when he went down the wrong path to save his wife, an aim that ultimately proved futile.
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And then there's his bloody rampage against Rebel soldiers, armed only with his lightsaber. You can't get any more awesome than that when it comes to Darth Vader. Reminds you how threatening he can be when he's in action.
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"Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Director." A perfect example of the classic Vader snark fans of the Original Trilogy have come to expect.
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I thought Darth Vader was perfectly--and scarily--in character for his appearances in Rogue One.
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I don't think TFA was bad. Of course it was far from being flawless but to be fair, all the Star Wars movies are imperfect. TFA is better than the prequels at least. Rogue One was a huge joke though. We just have to wait and see for ESB... I mean TLJ ;-)
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This is not gonna go the way you think!
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TFA was the most creatively bankrupt movie I've ever seen, carefully engineered and focus tested by a bunch of suits, with money being the only goal. Why would you want to pay for this? Do you really want to see a shitty ESB remake?
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@Valeyard Oh come on, it can't be that bad!?
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Charlie Rose just made the last episodes of his PBS shows, as a direct result of the Great Hollywood Sex Scandal of 2017.
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December's going to be an expensive month for Christopher Nolan fans
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True story... my good friend asked if I would "boycott" VIII with him... I laughed at him and said I'm not boycotting it, I'm just not going to watch it! Big Grin