Looks like the new se7en colour grade is closer to the original LD which is a nice change of pace, some reframing and regrading but this films never had any colour changes that were too radical. Interested in seeing what they've digitally tampered with for this one, some people are throwing AIccusatations

You can see grain on Pitt's hand here (from the trailer, zoom in) https://i.imgur.com/EIVUKzr.png

As long it not AI upscale nor DNR mess like the Cameron 4K "restorations", this can be regradable. But who knows by the actual release day

I feel like the Se7en UHD will be a double whammy for many people after the Cameron UHDs. They may never recover

That trailer of "Seven" looks about the same colorwise as the widely released Blu-ray. I wonder if it was edited using it or if the new master will look about the same...

And said trailer for Seven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PxDJyUMv_4

meanwhile, Fincher continues to "tweak" Se7en... https://www.fangoria.com/david-finchers-se7en-4k/

These deserved to be rescanned without Cameron, Lowry nor Park Road Post involvements. Especially with the latter destroyed Jackson's Middle-earth saga with DNR usage (both Theatrical and Extended Cuts)

And of course, the revisionist (like T2 and Titanic (1997) digitally altered CGIs): https://fanrestore.com/thread-4865-post-...l#pid91964

Yeah it's completely AI nuked. Someone posted pix on social media, where the posters in the store at the beginning, ads for brands, are redrawn and now the brand names are mispelled.

seems as if schnittberichte.com (english movie-censorship.com) had to fill in with some more comparison shots, just to make the censored frames not feeling so lonely in Showdown in Little Tokyo https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=581572

https://slow.pics/c/nnu4ifNU some more wonder A.I.

Anyone seen The Terminator 4K Blu-ray yet? If yes, any thoughts on the quality?

Thansk for the heads up, Bilbofett. Roger flew under the radar for so many years. He used to be easily accessible online from the late 90s to the late 00s or thereabouts. Loved to chat with fans on his own forum.

yes I know, this was a live 3.5+ hour Q&A

@Bilbofett Roger and Quentin are pretty chatty on their Video Archives podcast

Roger Avary (Pulp Fiction/Silent Hill/Rules of Attraction) discussing film, home video, art on WHATEVER podcast live w/ chat https://www.youtube.com/live/q0KddpwzQzo

That's fine, but expected for a "Cameronvism" release. The MGM "Hi-Def" source (used in the 2001 DVD & 2006 BD releases) kinda sucks, despite the master different from the 1995 LD release which are the intended way to watch it for the picture quality alone. It did get the closest color grading, but the loss of detail kills it for the MGM "Hi-Def" master

I see... so sorry for pestering, but what makes LD better than 2006? Which seemingly did not get that treatment, and still has better quality than a LD could

I rather have a crunchy LD video (1995) than how neither Cameron nor Lowry does it for this film. So I'm good

The Lowry signature: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...count=5882

And doesn't seem to have any signs of being sourced from the old master, looks like a new scan

It looks much better (detail-wise, not color)

I'm a bit confused about the fake grain thing, though

Well... wouldn't you still rather have the regrade over a crunchy LD video?

2006 BD is the old master, the 2013 BD is the Aliens approach (Lowry and Cameron by DNRing the master before adding fake grain) and the umatic is the source of the 2013 BD release (fake grain) with the theatrical grading. Aside for the 35mm fan scanned ones (if you don't mind cue markers), only the LD video (the 1995 THX release for picture) + 1991 Image audio hybrid is the closest for the best on home video in general with natural colors without needing to regrade the entire film

Is there any reason to prefer LD video over any of the other options (2006 bluray, 2013 bluray, umatic regrade)?

All that gives is someone syncing the 1995 Image Entertainment LaserDisc [ID2940NSB] image (Domesday Duplicator) with the 1991 Image Entertainment LaserDisc [ID8316HD] audio. The latter is suggested by Blah-ray alone: https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/search/lab...%281984%29

I am not that shocked, but yeah: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...count=9272 It is disgusting that is not worth the LD audio sync alone

anyone knows if LDRIP of On the Waterfront exists anywhere? Trying to find better audio to mux with UHD release. (https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/2020/03/on...-1954.html)

...at least licensed.

On Deadly Ground is a First Time on Blu-ray candidate

.. I should have pulled that trigger sooner...

But it is my fault, that they are released so late: I just bought the spanish bootlegs few weeks ago, because I was tired of waiting for regular german releases...

I think some of them, or even all of them, might be first time german BD releases of these steven Seagal movies. I assume, we just get the regular master, no new master, or they would announce it big time.

January 16th, 2025 Plaion will release a Steven Seagal BD Boxset containing: Hard to Kill, Out for Justice, On Deadly Ground, The Glimmer Man, Fire Down Below

Sadly for dub viewing non americans the unrated version of NoES is just on english with subtitles... Even if it is spliced via seamless branching...

New scan of my The Beach trailer by Dejonge Film (Belgium). Much, much cleaner and sharper. Overall condition isn't good though https://i.ibb.co/BBNDHXy/Standbild-2024-...-1-1-1.jpg

The uncut parts are definitely analog and not digital for what CiNEPHiLES saying

From the CiNEPHiLES release: Uncut edition of this film adds only 9 seconds of extra footage with no dialogue, as such I didn't think it was worth remuxing the theatrical version. Subtitles and commentaries (which were only included on disc with the theatrical edition) have been adjusted to sync. The 2.0 track included on the UHD is thankfully the original mono, and it sounds great. It appears to be a lossless version of the mastering included on the previous disc. A few seconds of the uncut footage seem to be spliced from a lower quality source, but it's not noticable.

There's only 9 seconds of extra footage in the uncut version. According to Blah-ray previous disc sounded good already, so if UHD is worse, that could be synced with the uncut moments spliced in

A good capture from a VHS of the uncut version would do the job as well, if the 4K release has a tempered mono mix

Misread as the music cue is missing (it does appear in that 4K release). Despite that, an LD audio sync with the Japanese uncut version of the film (as the only NTSC LD release contains an Unrated cut) is worth doing regardless: https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/33382/SF0...m-Street-A

I just got confirmation: A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) is now fully uncut on 4K (Disc & Streaming). Though the mono mix seams to be only available on disc

https://youtu.be/KAOdjqyG37A too real

hi everyone just wanted to say that

Gonna talk to them tomorrow. Can't imagine that this is the "final" resolution of the trailer. And compression aint good, too :-(

don't insult super8 like that! did you have a talk with them? minus the very obvious issues with the files you received it looks like a good scanner - https://ibb.co/Byqt4xd (super8 4k)

Really, really disappointed. It was scanned at "Berola", Germany

Not sure where you got that scanned but yikes.

https://i.ibb.co/KmrRwCF/Standbild-2024-...-1-1-1.jpg

Just got the scan of my "the beach" trailer. Its a 4k wetscan and looks like super8 footage....damn :-(

that is from the UPS

tried without the UPS? also maybe try from laptop without power adapter plugged in to confirm theres no ground loop

Any OG Cap artists know wtf this noise interference is? I've got everything through AVR Sinewave UPS (for dirty power).. LD or VHS, changed rooms, cap cards, between laptop/desktop, turned all powered devices off.. its all the same. What the hell is doing this? https://i.imgur.com/GhuzE93.jpeg

Cameron destroying his own movies since 2017

Come on guys it's going to be fun ride!

I expect the worst for T1 UHD

And the best one overall is the 1995 LD release for both picture and sound quality. Before and after are not that great (between the first LD release in 1985 and 1991 release on the former; 1997 DVD on the latter for inferior of the same mono audio master as the 1995 LD release)

I don't expect anything decent coming from Cameron anymore. Pictured AI'd and degrained and no mono mix. And he's vocal about it

No mono was a given, it's upscaled in 4K just like all the others. Putting the mono in there just doesn't fit, it's a thing now for fanrestore.

probably dnr'ed to death since it's a very grainy movie and cameron doesn't like grain. not holding my breath. every older cameron movie on 4k was a let down

Is there even any hope the video will be half decent at this point?

The Terminator was announced on 4K BD from Warner Home Video WITHOUT the original mono https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=35154

Canadian BD cannot be applied to a remaster

I have 2x HDTV with logos and 1 low-bitrate WEB-DL

bendermac - I'm looking for remastered Open Matte

Canadian BD from Alliance is OM

For hybrid

I'm looking for better Open Matte source

Maybe someone have an Amazon AMC+ subscription and can check this title

Open matte.

Disc 3: The Chronicles of Riddick 4K (Theatrical Cut in alternate 1.78:1 aspect ratio)

R.I.P. James Earl Jones

That's great news!

bluray forum discussing it https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php...st22411841

^^more: https://archive.ph/hw5SC

VS may be preparing THE KEEP for release https://new.reddit.com/r/boutiquebluray/...t_appears/

probably somewhere local, lots of people offer such a service and shipping is expensive

Anyone got a tip for place to get a "cheap" 35mm scan in Europe?

No way! Corey Yuen was a legend. RIP

Just found out HK actor Corey Yuen died. Apparently, he died in 2022 but it wasn't revealed till now. Cool dude.

Good evening :-)

Watched Black Box, thought it was pretty good

The funniest thing is most of the guys who complain about the AI use are family men with several kids. Also most people who collect UHD and Blu-ray are well established financially with superior jobs. They also probably use their basement for very costly home-cinema set ups with large armchairs and Atmos sound.

that's supposed to be a good movie, I think there was a sequel? not sure

@CSchmidlapp You can get it on iplayer.

Cheers Alleycat, I will hunt this down.

I watched a really good French movie the other day called Black Box. It's about an audio analyst who works on black box recordings from crashed planes and he starts to uncover inconsistencies with the recordings, very much in the style of Blow Out. Anyway the reason I mention it is while he is listening to the audio he is using Izotope RX. And he's actually using it with the correct interface etc, it's not the usual Hollywood completely fabricated software. Just cool to see a program I use on a regular basis being used in a movie.

The words of Cameron makes even the viewers encourage to contribute the donations of fan scans, regrading and (proper) perserving his movies. Disgusting for those wanted a non-DNR, non-AI upscale and closest original grading of his movies.

He's lost it. A self righteous, pompous, know it all. He's made some truly great films, but he's so blinded by digital is good, he fails to recognize how he's destroyed his previous work, and the work of all the cinematographers and colorists that made those films look so good.

What he said about his BD transfers really ticks me off

omg, he went with the mom's basement smartassery there... https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies...235972175/

That's a beast