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Train wreck of a movie anyway, just like Twisters. There's no fixing at this point. Just erase those from history.
Fix this! Fix that! How do you 'fix' something for which there is no complete or correct version? It's just an improvement until next time someone wants to fiddle with it...
Alien Romulus home release has fixed Rook - https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news...e-release/
I'll take it over low quality scans with questionable grading, or an LD era release
yeah, he did some revisionist changes. I wish he didn't, but it's honestly not that big of a deal
so, he DID use A.I., but not in how you think. I approve this usage https://ew.com/david-fincher-discusses-u...ox-8763180
Then stick with the DTS Cinema CD-ROM track instead? Even the DTS LD releases has fatal flaws that the true theatrical experience is the DTS Cinema audio track. What a waste, but a least tried for emunateD (the same with Pulp Fiction)
Looks like emunateD is ready to sync the UHD release for what velocity saying: https://fanrestore.com/thread-5616.html
sounds like we'll have to mux the 7.1 onto this https://www.hometheaterforum.com/seven-a...hd-review/
Yes probably right issues, so they removed the music. That makes for an interesting alternative soundtrack version!
Warner just put Barry Lyndon on YT with many music cues missing in scenes that now only have the dialogue and effects track on them.
just watched PTA's 1st movie HARD EIGHT (aka SYDNEY) in the new 4k master on The Movie Channel, Looks great. Colorful, better color separation, new looking, you can see every single pore in John C. Reilly's face now, lol
For Amadeus Theatrical, looks like the JP LD audio can finally sync once the 4K is out: https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Amadeu...803/page/1
Amadeus coming to 4K with the theatrical cut https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=35684
Corporations just want to make money. If upscaling a 1080p master with AI cost 5 000 $ vers investing 15 000 $ to scan in 4K + 10 000 $ to redo the color timing, they won't hesitate.
Just finished SK13, the doc on Kubrick/Eyes Wide Shut, HIGHLY recommended. Fascinating. Not sure I agree w/ his final take, but what a hell of a ride
Would have been mondo excellent if both cuts of Thief made it to 4K officially.. Maybe Arrow Video.
And yet corporations never learn NOT to AI upscale the masters. Viewers rather have untouched 2K DI masters placed into the 4K disc (with less compression issues; worked with The Shallows (2016) & Drive (2011) Second Sight releases) despite limited by the source masters
Even Interstella 5555 has been ruined by AI: https://www.reddit.com/r/DaftPunk/commen.../#lightbox
Welll, since they did release a blu-ray with both cuts, maybe they have the rights for a UHD release too. We'll see.
Or, for short, what Titanic just said. Is Arrow supposed to make their own edition or is it just wishful thinking?
@velocity It is an issue when the theatrical cut isn't available in the same latest format. Anyway, I hope Arrow will fix that.
Oh, yes, it IS a replacement. No original untouched theatrical cut included just like the 2014 Criterion Blu-ray. We're deprived from the original historical film. Nobody cares about HIS vision HE wants to enforce. A film is a group effort and part of (pop) culture history. It morally and ethically belongs to us. Nobody has mandate to go back in time and change the past. Mann is amongst the worst revisionists anyway among Lucas, Cameron, Scott, Spielberg, Cundey, Fujimoto, Storaro... Those guys owe us their careers and fortunes, and they take a number two on all of us. There never was a proper "Heat" home video release (terrible non-colors), there's now 3 cuts for "The Last of the Mohicans" and only 2 on Blu-ray with the latest ruined colorwise. There's now 3 cuts for "Ali", and only 2 on Blu-ray in different regions. There's at least 3 cuts for "Manhunter" and only one looks decent, at least it's the theatrical one. "The Insider" was ruined colorwise on Blu-ray while the DVD and old TV broadcastings had the proper colors... Theatrical cuts, looks and mixes are the real deal. Anything else should only be considered as a bonus. The sad part is the industry wants almost universally to impose the new version. You can't even buy "Blade Runner" on its own nowadays. The standalone edition is The Final Cut. It's also the one shown on streaming and TV now, falsely labelled as being a 1982 film... with Atmos and CGI implemented!
It's still the director's vision, even if it's the vision he had decades later. More than you can say about any open matte
Nothing wrong with that. It's a new director's cut, no one's saying it's a replacement for the theatrical. I don't see why someone would take an issue with that, it's honest and not pretending to be anything else
It's strange to read in a fan restoration forum, the news of the tealed-to-death director's cut of THIEF released, considered awesome!
The Social Network is also on its way in a standalone release, out of the Columbia boxset.
That finally took under 19 years to get on Blu (and UHD at the same time) for the first time ever. Blu is referring to the debut since 2006. But being a Fincher film, who knows if this is worth the wait despite being a Sony film (Fincher is not involved in The Social Network 4K)
Apparently The Brutalist is shot in Vistavision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdRXPAHIEW4. Very cool to see this format getting a modern revival
the corporate will sell you dreck and won't even blink https://twitter.com/rarefilmm/status/186...0413061487
The master made for the Criterion LD of Se7en is probably the closest home release to the original theatrical release prints, although Fincher tweaked it even then. Every subsequent release has been revised further
Looks like the new se7en colour grade is closer to the original LD which is a nice change of pace, some reframing and regrading but this films never had any colour changes that were too radical. Interested in seeing what they've digitally tampered with for this one, some people are throwing AIccusatations
You can see grain on Pitt's hand here (from the trailer, zoom in) https://i.imgur.com/EIVUKzr.png
As long it not AI upscale nor DNR mess like the Cameron 4K "restorations", this can be regradable. But who knows by the actual release day
I feel like the Se7en UHD will be a double whammy for many people after the Cameron UHDs. They may never recover
That trailer of "Seven" looks about the same colorwise as the widely released Blu-ray. I wonder if it was edited using it or if the new master will look about the same...
meanwhile, Fincher continues to "tweak" Se7en... https://www.fangoria.com/david-finchers-se7en-4k/
These deserved to be rescanned without Cameron, Lowry nor Park Road Post involvements. Especially with the latter destroyed Jackson's Middle-earth saga with DNR usage (both Theatrical and Extended Cuts)
And of course, the revisionist (like T2 and Titanic (1997) digitally altered CGIs): https://fanrestore.com/thread-4865-post-...l#pid91964
Yeah it's completely AI nuked. Someone posted pix on social media, where the posters in the store at the beginning, ads for brands, are redrawn and now the brand names are mispelled.
seems as if schnittberichte.com (english movie-censorship.com) had to fill in with some more comparison shots, just to make the censored frames not feeling so lonely in Showdown in Little Tokyo https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=581572
Anyone seen The Terminator 4K Blu-ray yet? If yes, any thoughts on the quality?
Thansk for the heads up, Bilbofett. Roger flew under the radar for so many years. He used to be easily accessible online from the late 90s to the late 00s or thereabouts. Loved to chat with fans on his own forum.
@Bilbofett Roger and Quentin are pretty chatty on their Video Archives podcast
Roger Avary (Pulp Fiction/Silent Hill/Rules of Attraction) discussing film, home video, art on WHATEVER podcast live w/ chat https://www.youtube.com/live/q0KddpwzQzo
That's fine, but expected for a "Cameronvism" release. The MGM "Hi-Def" source (used in the 2001 DVD & 2006 BD releases) kinda sucks, despite the master different from the 1995 LD release which are the intended way to watch it for the picture quality alone. It did get the closest color grading, but the loss of detail kills it for the MGM "Hi-Def" master
I see... so sorry for pestering, but what makes LD better than 2006? Which seemingly did not get that treatment, and still has better quality than a LD could
I rather have a crunchy LD video (1995) than how neither Cameron nor Lowry does it for this film. So I'm good
And doesn't seem to have any signs of being sourced from the old master, looks like a new scan
2006 BD is the old master, the 2013 BD is the Aliens approach (Lowry and Cameron by DNRing the master before adding fake grain) and the umatic is the source of the 2013 BD release (fake grain) with the theatrical grading. Aside for the 35mm fan scanned ones (if you don't mind cue markers), only the LD video (the 1995 THX release for picture) + 1991 Image audio hybrid is the closest for the best on home video in general with natural colors without needing to regrade the entire film
Is there any reason to prefer LD video over any of the other options (2006 bluray, 2013 bluray, umatic regrade)?
All that gives is someone syncing the 1995 Image Entertainment LaserDisc [ID2940NSB] image (Domesday Duplicator) with the 1991 Image Entertainment LaserDisc [ID8316HD] audio. The latter is suggested by Blah-ray alone: https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/search/lab...%281984%29
I am not that shocked, but yeah: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...count=9272 It is disgusting that is not worth the LD audio sync alone
anyone knows if LDRIP of On the Waterfront exists anywhere? Trying to find better audio to mux with UHD release. (https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/2020/03/on...-1954.html)