The first thing I learned about Germany when I went there was somebody said to me, "A stau is a traffic jam except it's so bad you want to commit suicide when you see one".
we have different points of view.. yeah, but nobody started to insult someone just because of the point of view.. or heritage.. or alcohol preferences.
the building that was stormed, where the rioters where getting up to.. the police had the keys to that building, and the permittance of the owner to enter it... some days before the riot...
just the way you guys are bud, you've had your ass handed to you twice in the last hundred years and your are still the most powerful nation in mainland europe, you have resolve, clarity of thought and purpose, a powerhouse race
They are self claimed anarcho-communists, they don't care about private property (evidenced by the destruction of cars) and they oppose any sort of government (evidenced by the timing, it's not the G20, Trump or Putin, it's the rule of law)
On the other hand.. yeah, I think the aggressive antifascists are a problem.. first of all.. they use similar methods as a fascistic regime would use.. some of them may have a good intention fighting racism and facism... but I think there are better ways, than violence...
it's not about being blind, they are being realists, they serve the powerful, when the police arent sufficient enough deterent the powerful always call in their military, that in itself is a guised threat, do what we tell you or else, society dont have too many ways of outgunning that threat, well there is one, but certainly not something you talk about online
if i understood your post correctly mrbrown, that is not technically the police's fault, that is the fault of the society they work in, of course they are the politicians heavies, that is exactly their role as is the justice system, why so many normal people are in jail, but very few of the powerful people ever see it, regardless to what they do
Since my parents came from the soviet union, I know from first hand witnesses what it's like to have a police force that serves a dictatorship, I would obviously not think the same way, but I believe a compromise must be found
it's just another term that has appeared over the ages to make the mere mortals feel more important about themselves, so the illusion can be maintained
That may be, but as long as the citizens won't realize times are changing, they'll never work. It was always up for the people to make the government realize that, and I'm very much against it being the other way around
since the war on terror started most of the western nations involved in that are using protocols your lot developed decades ago, you always had a security first process which makes sense
We started by calling a spade a spade. Islamic terrorism. You have that too, and the anarchists, yet the citizens are so tranquil and complacent, I'm afraid I'll never get it. Nostalgia and hope of returning to the good old days?
mrbrown, i think the point is the only time escalation makes sense is when you take it to a level where the other side no longer wants to play, anything less than that is just colored bubbles
I don't think that the police force should have been harsher.. or it may even had more escalated.. but the law enforcement on the aggressive agressors may be better... some of the people throwing stones are already free, because the paperwork was not done in time...
I agree with you on that. When I read the RNT's new security policy which was described as "Enhanced", I chuckled a bit because that security measure is standard procedure here, and the people know it
Laws can be mended. The government is worried about popularity, and having the police use violence reflects badly on it. But the fact that everything is live streamed today goes both ways. When people are violent towards the police, it's common sense to use violence against them
This goes beyond peaceful political opposition. While I agree that shutting down protests is anti democratic, it's not a very fine line between peaceful protests and violent riots. German police should know better, and the German government should not be afraid to meet violence with harsher violence
Is that really a good thing when political oppositions are forced down that aggressively? Yeah, theanarchist riots are extrme dumb.. also don't think that the big part of these anarchists are really political interested.. they were just interested in making chaos an mayhem...