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Of course, but even if it isn't daily, just hoping to ride it out won't always work, there has to be some common sense involved
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I think it is more important to have a balance in power... such acts of power are not a daily thing.. while police is a daily existing force...
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That may be, but as long as the citizens won't realize times are changing, they'll never work. It was always up for the people to make the government realize that, and I'm very much against it being the other way around
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but to give the yanks their due, they are not entirely stupid, they do dangle your country as bait, they know you are their queen piece on the board
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since the war on terror started most of the western nations involved in that are using protocols your lot developed decades ago, you always had a security first process which makes sense
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We started by calling a spade a spade. Islamic terrorism. You have that too, and the anarchists, yet the citizens are so tranquil and complacent, I'm afraid I'll never get it. Nostalgia and hope of returning to the good old days?
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We adapted out policies, it keeps us safe, but there are always slips, I'm not saying there aren't any, but at least we try
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And the governments refuse to adapt to modern times, you can't have a home policy from the 70's and expect it to work today
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Well, that's the problem with the police, it doesn't deter, and the cops are paying the price
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mrbrown, i think the point is the only time escalation makes sense is when you take it to a level where the other side no longer wants to play, anything less than that is just colored bubbles
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That's why they fail, and because we normally act in self defence, with a very clear goal of repelling the enemy, we succeed
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The thing is, America isn't trying to make them surrender, they always have a longer game, it's never about the actual country they invade
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I don't think that the police force should have been harsher.. or it may even had more escalated.. but the law enforcement on the aggressive agressors may be better... some of the people throwing stones are already free, because the paperwork was not done in time...
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no way in hell could America get 5 countries in the middle east to simultaneously surrender within a week
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It wasn't always like that. Until the early 80's, our security measures were a lot lighter
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yes, but you guys are next level, have been since your country was formed and with very good reason
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I agree with you on that. When I read the RNT's new security policy which was described as "Enhanced", I chuckled a bit because that security measure is standard procedure here, and the people know it
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as opposed to realistic pragmatists
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because if so that explains the way you think, just doubt many europeans will understand that viewpoint, most are optimistic pacifists
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Yeah, you did
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nir, did i catch you correctly earlier when you said you are from Israel?
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Laws can be mended. The government is worried about popularity, and having the police use violence reflects badly on it. But the fact that everything is live streamed today goes both ways. When people are violent towards the police, it's common sense to use violence against them
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The problem is tht putting some force above the law may bring problems afterwards in controlling that force...
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Europe as a whole has been too lenient on terrorism and violence, it's a real shame, as we used to look up to it
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My point is that the protestors know they won't be harmed, but if this was 30 years ago, they wouldn't dare even speak up
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This goes beyond peaceful political opposition. While I agree that shutting down protests is anti democratic, it's not a very fine line between peaceful protests and violent riots. German police should know better, and the German government should not be afraid to meet violence with harsher violence
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Is that really a good thing when political oppositions are forced down that aggressively? Yeah, theanarchist riots are extrme dumb.. also don't think that the big part of these anarchists are really political interested.. they were just interested in making chaos an mayhem...
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To say nothing of the strict control in the east...
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I meant before the wall fell, when communist leaning protestors in the west were met with brute force.
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Well the last week, I was somewhere else... not in Hamburg... Smile
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search for 'Rostock-Lichtenhagen' August 92 ... and how pityful the police forces rected...
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30 Years ago it was not thus different...
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We have been following with some interest, it's absurd that the police has no deterring power against those anarchists. If this was 30 years ago....
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For some cars in Hamburg this was quite literally in the last days...
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Well, it may not be very hot in Germany weather wise, but politically, you're on fire! Smile
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well... I think GErmany is quite cool today.. about 20 °C ... yesterday it rained...
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We're having a heatwave, a tropical heatwave! Oh, the temperature's rising, it isn't surprising, they certainly can, can-can!
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Israel's hot too, 36 degrees here, won't cool down to 31 for 4 more days...
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We are literally melting here, as ice creams dropped on the hot asphalt, with temperatures near (if not above) 40°C... what's about you?
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I have it on my HDD already Tongue
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Got it. Thanks!
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^panel displays in general
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Has anyone looked at Sony's 1080p 10-bit HDR sets?
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^ Do you mean flat as opposed to curved or just TV screens in general (as opposed to projectors)?
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On flatscreens the main benefit of UHD is 10bit colour
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I don't think 4k is effective at 43" anyway, I think it's best at 55" and bigger.
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I actually got myself a 1080 one Smile I don't really see the point of 4K when it comes to home media. Plus, the goal was to get something cheap Tongue
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4k?
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It's funny you said that because my 32" TV is dying and I just ordered a brand new 43" one Big Grin
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too bad my TV is only 32 inches in "size" Smile
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...bought them at a quite low price for the sets with one year in time differences...
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My Sound System is build from two different, but still quite similar 5.1 systems from the same manufacturer... my receiver is 7.2 capable... so I can choose between 5 identical front, two dipole on the sides, 2 subs or the other setup: 3 irntical front, twi dipole sides, two in the backs a bit smaller than the front together with the two subs...
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Sweet, I've always wanted twin subs
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Two.. one with 300 Watt normal and short term up to 600 Watt, the other one 350 Watt normal power with short term up to 700 Watt
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Subwoofers? How many have you got?
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well.. with the right sound system, that bringes the signal lower 100hz to the sub of the system... I don't have 3 way speakers with build in passive woofers. So I have to use the external subwoofers for that.
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lol, i hope you were trying to trick me there
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say again?
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Also the Das Boot 2.0 Audio could be a reference for any Subwoofer...
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it was the rotorwash scene just after the chopper lands in the meadow to drop off gleeson, there was some grass rusting in the bottom left of the screen, noise wise it came from my left foot
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one scene from the headphone x track from the usa bd of ex machina blew me away, it actually had me looking at my left foot trying to work out where the noise came from, it was like being the camera or the screen itself
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to be perfectly honest i think that film or the series would be perfect as a DTS Headphone X demonstration, the immersion levels on teh stuff i have already heard from that tech are intense
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Especially more intense.. a great mix.. while the 5.1 just seems lame...
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but i do get where you are coming from regarding the difference in 2.0 to 5.1 remasters, the 2.0 sounds far more focused and intense
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I just noticed that there are some forign (non german) DVD releases of the DC with the non 5.1 Audio in german... old canadian columbian tristar release and Dutch DVD...
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no problem.. i think most confution is that either Televition Cut and Theatrical Cut may be shortened to TC. Smile
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fair enough and sorry for any confusion caused
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So, bigrob and I are talking about a different Version of that movie... Until the first german DVD release, that arrived this weekend, I never saw a Release of the Director's Cut in 2.0 only in 5.1
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it's just the disc name, it is the tv mini series, the 6 episode version which came out before the film if i am not mistaken
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bigrob an me are talking on the Theatrical Cut and the Director's Cut, not the Television Cut
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What Kind of "uncut" you are referring? The Theatrical Cut, the Director's Cut or the Television cut?
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not sure what you meant by that MrBrown, but there are 2 dts-hdma tracks in the Original Uncut version of Das Boot, the 5.1 remaster and a 2.0 track as well, both German obviously
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it has a 5.1 mix in german and english...
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@MrBrown Yeah the 2 disc BD from the USA has both DC and TC but I can't find any info if the TC is the original audio mix or the remixed audio from the DC
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The BD Audio was in DTS-HDMA
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i had to check, but it is dts-hdma 2.0
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dont know if any of you peeps are interested but i kept the 2.0 track for Das Boot seeding on hdt, they uploaded it outside of the main file for the miniseries
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@Bigrob: Wich TC release from US are you talking about? The BluRay? Do you have that, or are you searching?
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IIRC, The DC of Das Boot had a whole new audio mix done for it back in the late 90's. I have the original 6 part series on BD from Germany which i think is the original audio (not watched it yet). I'm also tryign to find out if the theatrical cut in the USA 2 disc release has the original audio as well or if it's a cut down version of the DC with remixed audio.
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Seem to be my first DC Version with the stereo audio on disc. The German and US DVDs and BDs of the DC all only have German 5.1 mixes... So, it was an ear opener feeling that U-boat approach in the title sequence...
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Ah, thanks. So it is more a problem with the mix itself. The difference on the DVD really is extreme...
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I have the old german flipper DVD of "Das Boot" DC.. and it offers 5.1 Dolby and 2.0 MPEG...
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Depending on it's source I'd say it's possible.
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Mhm.. is it possible that a 2.0 MPEG DVD Audio Stream (224 kbps) seem to sound more powerful than a 5.1 Dolby mix?
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Does anybody here have the old Taiwanese flipper DVD of 'Rumble in the Bronx' (without DTS audio)?
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Play both YouTubes together with the 2nd at 2x speed ... LOL
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Mel Brooks once said he loved the scene where Fantozzi is trying to catch the bus "on the fly" https://youtu.be/YlbC3prznBs?t=2m39s , in that period Brooks was shooting or had recently shot Silent Movie so I can see why that scene had struck him.
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Oh the guy's a panic! Big Grin All the great comics have timing and he's got it. I wonder how it would go with some "Yakety Sax" -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpc5_3B5xdk
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Well, sorta... he invented "Fantozzi", a character who entered in the Italian culture - check it out, can't say if the movies would retain the same bittersweet irony in another language, but you should give it a go!
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Paolo Villaggio -- "Widely popular in Italy, Villaggio expressed his comic qualities through slapstick, satire and irony." Sounds like an Italian Benny Hill ... without the babes?
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Mine is not that new and the colour timing was changed I thought but have not checked
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nope, you can tell it's the same master, same soft video. The biggest tell is the shot when Arnie climbs the swiss embassy at the beginning. Look at the sides, slim black lines, like it's pillarboxed. They appear in the DVHS, the HDTV and this new webrip.
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R.I.P. Paolo Villaggio... Sad
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I thought the open matte lies in had was the newer master
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It's quite shocking to pay for a web-dl and get logos...what's next, adverts?
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...another reason to not get web-dl... Happy
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Yes, in a web dl. Starz web dl's always have a logo bobbing in and out during the programme.
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nir, "a logo sometimes"? in a web-dl or HDTV? when/where it could be found?