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[Help] Adobe After Effects Exporting
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One of the many advantages of DaVinci Resolve, another being that it's more or less commercial freeware at this stage, with an optional paid upgrade. Course, I didn't see Lagarith specifically as an option, but it does allow for encoding of uncompressed AVI files.
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(2017-10-26, 10:16 PM)menzerin Wrote: Unfortunately After Effects doesn't offer Lagarith as a codec option, neither AVI as a container.

To my knowledge the only AVI lossless compressor that work on mac is MagicYUV and you have to pay for it now. Like Doom and Feallan said don't use Adobe's internal 264 encoder. Convert your compressed video into prores (or DNxHD if you don't want to go Apple) and output in those formats to use compressor to convert it into 264 (or the x264 for mac that I have never tried)

Edit: prores versions https://larryjordan.com/articles/picking...of-prores/
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(2017-10-26, 10:20 PM)Koopa Luath Wrote: One of the many advantages of DaVinci Resolve, another being that it's more or less commercial freeware at this stage, with an optional paid upgrade. Course, I didn't see Lagarith specifically as an option, but it does allow for encoding of uncompressed AVI files.

I've already edited every scene I needed and it was a lot of work so I don't want to start over the whole process.
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(2017-10-26, 10:24 PM)PDB Wrote:
(2017-10-26, 10:16 PM)menzerin Wrote: Unfortunately After Effects doesn't offer Lagarith as a codec option, neither AVI as a container.

To my knowledge the only AVI lossless compressor that work on mac is MagicYUV and you have to pay for it now. Like Doom and Feallan said don't use Adobe's internal 264 encoder. Convert your compressed video into prores (or DNxHD if you don't want to go Apple) and output in those formats to use compressor to convert it into 264 (or the x264 for mac that I have never tried)

Edit: prores versions https://larryjordan.com/articles/picking...of-prores/

Wikipedia says about Apple ProRes 422 that it encode only I-frames and I'm trying to avoid that. I want I-frames where they originally were only.
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(2017-10-26, 10:31 PM)menzerin Wrote:
(2017-10-26, 10:24 PM)PDB Wrote:
(2017-10-26, 10:16 PM)menzerin Wrote: Unfortunately After Effects doesn't offer Lagarith as a codec option, neither AVI as a container.

To my knowledge the only AVI lossless compressor that work on mac is MagicYUV and you have to pay for it now. Like Doom and Feallan said don't use Adobe's internal 264 encoder. Convert your compressed video into prores (or DNxHD if you don't want to go Apple) and output in those formats to use compressor to convert it into 264 (or the x264 for mac that I have never tried)

Edit: prores versions https://larryjordan.com/articles/picking...of-prores/

Wikipedia says about Apple ProRes 422 that it encode only I-frames and I'm trying to avoid that. I want I-frames where they originally were only.

You want the I-frames of your compressed file (assuming 264) to match the I-frames of your output? I think you will have some trouble with that.
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(2017-10-26, 10:36 PM)PDB Wrote:
(2017-10-26, 10:31 PM)menzerin Wrote:
(2017-10-26, 10:24 PM)PDB Wrote:
(2017-10-26, 10:16 PM)menzerin Wrote: Unfortunately After Effects doesn't offer Lagarith as a codec option, neither AVI as a container.

To my knowledge the only AVI lossless compressor that work on mac is MagicYUV and you have to pay for it now. Like Doom and Feallan said don't use Adobe's internal 264 encoder. Convert your compressed video into prores (or DNxHD if you don't want to go Apple) and output in those formats to use compressor to convert it into 264 (or the x264 for mac that I have never tried)

Edit: prores versions https://larryjordan.com/articles/picking...of-prores/

Wikipedia says about Apple ProRes 422 that it encode only I-frames and I'm trying to avoid that. I want I-frames where they originally were only.

You want the I-frames of your compressed file (assuming 264) to match the I-frames of your output? I think you will have some trouble with that.

I want I-frames where my input file have and it has at point where the video switch between shots/different camera angles.
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(2017-10-26, 10:38 PM)menzerin Wrote:
(2017-10-26, 10:36 PM)PDB Wrote:
(2017-10-26, 10:31 PM)menzerin Wrote:
(2017-10-26, 10:24 PM)PDB Wrote:
(2017-10-26, 10:16 PM)menzerin Wrote: Unfortunately After Effects doesn't offer Lagarith as a codec option, neither AVI as a container.

To my knowledge the only AVI lossless compressor that work on mac is MagicYUV and you have to pay for it now. Like Doom and Feallan said don't use Adobe's internal 264 encoder. Convert your compressed video into prores (or DNxHD if you don't want to go Apple) and output in those formats to use compressor to convert it into 264 (or the x264 for mac that I have never tried)

Edit: prores versions https://larryjordan.com/articles/picking...of-prores/

Wikipedia says about Apple ProRes 422 that it encode only I-frames and I'm trying to avoid that. I want I-frames where they originally were only.

You want the I-frames of your compressed file (assuming 264) to match the I-frames of your output? I think you will have some trouble with that.

I want I-frames where my input file have and it has at point where the video switch between shots/different camera angles.

Well then you are probably at the limits of my knowledge since I don't know any compression coming out of Mac AE that is going to let you choose your i frames. Choose the frequency of i frames...sure but not choose where they are.

Your i frames are likely iffy in AE when compared to the original file since AE has to unwind the compression and it kind of sucks at that. Hence Feallan saying not to edit in 264 (again assuming it's that). Prores and DNxHD are designed to be edited with, so their compression is minimally invasive.

If it was me, I'd still go with outputing at the highest level pro or dn like the pros do and then convert to 264. Or bite the bullet and go directly to 264 in AE and take the hit.

There is a x264 encoder for mac somewhere out there if you wanted to try that.
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(2017-10-26, 10:38 PM)menzerin Wrote: I want I-frames where my input file have and it has at point where the video switch between shots/different camera angles.

I understand what you mean - you want the output file to have the "right" I frames when there is a shot change etc.

The fact is, when you work with compressed video, it is always decompressed, then you eventually re-encode it - there is no way to avoid this - and then encoder settings would decide where to put the I, P, B frames.

So, the best way to preserve the original material is

source (lossy)-> editing (uncompressed) -> lossless (for further editing, if needed) -> final encoding (lossy)
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#19
Use this.
https://www.videohelp.com/software/Ut-Video-Codec-Suite
It has a MAC version.
Stay in this codec until you are finished editing and encode your final H264 from the finished file/s.
its worth transcoding all your assets to this codec before any editing in the future Smile
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(2017-10-27, 01:15 AM)CSchmidlapp Wrote: Use this.
https://www.videohelp.com/software/Ut-Video-Codec-Suite
It has a MAC version.
Stay in this codec until you are finished editing and encode your final H264 from the finished file/s.
its worth transcoding all your assets to this codec before any editing in the future Smile

Nice I didn't know UT had a mac version
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