2018-04-25, 05:09 PM
(2018-04-25, 04:00 PM)spoRv Wrote: Found this interesting article - hope will be useful: http://www.lightillusion.com/uhdtv.html
Great stuff, this is exactly what I was looking for
So what do you think?
[Idea] SDR -> HDR "upconversion"
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2018-04-25, 05:09 PM
(2018-04-25, 04:00 PM)spoRv Wrote: Found this interesting article - hope will be useful: http://www.lightillusion.com/uhdtv.html Great stuff, this is exactly what I was looking for So what do you think?
2018-04-25, 05:32 PM
I think I'll be forced to buy soon an HDR UHD display...
2018-04-25, 05:52 PM
From the article:
Quote:Meta-data is really needed only for one reason - when HDR was introduced there were no TVs that could match the peak luma and gamut coverage of the mastering/grading displays - specifically peak luma. With the 'absolute' nature of PQ based HDR, not having the same peak luma as the mastering display is something of an issue, as the image will clip. To attempt to overcome this, meta-data was introduced to allow the HDR TV to re-map the image content to attempt to overcome its lesser capabilities - apply a Tone Map roll-off to the EOTF/gamma curve. Quote:The basic approach to the generation of meta-data during grading/mastering is to first grade the HDR content on a professional HDR display, without any form of roll-off/tone mapping, using the highest brightness and colour gamut available (nominally P3 gamut, and between 1000 and 4000 nits). The HDR graded footage is then passed through an analysing system that will re-map the HDR images to SDR, attempting to maintain the original HDR intent, adding Dynamic Meta-data to define the changes between the HDR original and the SDR version. Often, the grading colourist will assist with a 'trim' pass grade to help in maintaining the original artistic intent. Quote:However, many home TVs are now getting close to matching the grading display's peak luma and gamut capabilities, especially as most HDR masters are graded on displays with between 1000 and 2000 nits, making the requirement for meta-data an interesting question going forward. If the viewing TV can match the grading display why is there a need for meta-data? The answer is, there isn't... Very interesting. So this basically means that the metadata is irrelevant for any true HDR displaying and potentially irrelevant for any HDR->SDR conversion, unless you want it to look the way that semi-automatic analysis system came up with it. It also means that most displays that don't reach the peak luminance of the mastering display, instead of clipping, will do a form of roll-off/tone mapping in the highlights to fit the whole range of the source image into the available output range. One could argue it would be smarter to simply clip those highlights, or at least make the approach optional. But this information also makes me wonder whether this metadata might actually be used for recreating the actual "official" SD master of UHDs, like for example the Dark Knight. Also something that surprised me a little: Quote:The black level of any display has nothing to do with SDR vs. HDR - black is always just the blackest black the display can attain.Thanks for the link, spoRv!
2018-04-25, 06:10 PM
2018-04-25, 10:14 PM
Another two, brief, articles about HDR and Dolby Vision:
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/tvs-enter...d-you-care http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/tvs-enter...difference Thanks given by: CSchmidlapp
2018-05-26, 10:15 AM
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