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[No Longer Available] The Ring Original DVD/DVHS Colors (Quick Project)
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The Ring Original DVD/DVHS Colors (Quick Project v1.0)


Project Info

The original HD master of the US remake of The Ring (2002) has a different color timing than the later BD. The original timing was a cool green-blue mix whereas the BD has a firmly dark, green-yellow look. Here are some examples between the BD and DVD:

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&...27&i=1&l=0

Luckily the older, and I think superior color timing has appeared in HD on the old DTheather DVHS system and has since been ripped. This project will take that HD MPEG-2 footage and run a light clean-up of compression artifacts.

Adding to that will be the Cinema DTS as originally heard in theaters.

Video:
Mpeg-2 footage deblocked with compression clean-up

Audio:
1. DTS-HD MA 5.1 (from the Cinema DTS Discs with Dtheather bumper added)
2. DTS 5.1 (from the DVHS Tape cap)

Sync
Synced to the Dtheather tape with a ~ +33000ms to the DVD

Subs:
1. English (from the DVD)

Pics
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Collaborators and Thanks (In order of help):
Doombot
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Been a while on this one. A quick update. I'm rendering it this week and just started work on syncing the DTS discs.

Small note. I dropped the Dtheather logo on my Fight Club OAR project so that it, the OM project and the BD are all in sync. Since sync to another master is not as important in this project, I'm keeping the Dtheater bumper but splicing in the logo sound into the Cinema DTS track. So there is no silence in that section.
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Uploading now. Participating members (aka no newbies) can PM me if they want a copy. Please allow me a day or two to get back to you. I'll keep it posted for a week or two.
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2. Alien 1999 HDTV Master (Quick Project v1.0)
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6. Conan The Barbarian Theatrical Cut (Quick Project v1.0)
7. The Hitcher Regrade and Video Fix (v1.1)
8. Big Trouble in Little China Video Fix (Quick Project v2.0)
9. Quantum Of Solace Open Matte (v1.0)
10. The Ring Original DVD/DVHS Colors (Quick Project v1.0)
11. Die Hard 2 UHD Downconvert (Quick Project v1.0) (Coming Soon)

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1. Predator (Itunes Master v1.2)
2. Flash Gordon Regrade (Widescreen Laserdisc v1.0 and V1.1)
3. Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome (Regrade to DVD-LD v1.4)
4. Die Hard With A Vengeance 35mm Regrade (35 Project #2 v1.2)
5. Tombstone Director's Cut HD + SD Upscaled (Quick Project v1.0)
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Last call for this.
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Question: Is the Cinema DTS any different then the DTS from DTH or the DTS-HDMA from the BD?
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Its not a radical difference but the same kind of details I see for a lot of cinema DTS releases.

The BD has a little more detail in the mix. Things feel a bit more “clear”, like in the dialogue. Maybe because of mixing or being a lossless release. Not sure.

The cinema DTS has more bass. Not only in the LFE but more for all channels. You can feel the large far field presence in the mix. Music and effects punch harder.

But you would never notice these differences unless you ran them side by side. They are close.

The c DTS is great but I considered that the gravy on this project. The color difference are they bigger deal to me.
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OK the Ring has returned to the deep, dark well from whence it came. Thanks for the downloads. Hope everyone enjoyed it.
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Sorry for the necropost for this project but I thought this was a cool video explaining the color timing of The Ring:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3Eg9fo4c_M
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You've piqued my interested in checking this out - would you recommend the dtheater version?
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(2024-02-05, 11:28 PM)PDB Wrote: Sorry for the necropost for this project but I thought this was a cool video explaining the color timing of The Ring

Something I saw that was incredibly fascinating was how at the 20:39 mark, the first alternative variant of the filtering that he deemed too mild looked remarkably similar to this older master of the movie.

[Image: Why-The-Ring-Didn-t-Use-Color-Grading-20...enshot.png]

It genuinely makes me wonder how this experiment would've looked if the guy tried to also print his negatives with the RA-4 process since I imagine those photo-paper blowups would've resulted in a better viewport than the edited digital scans—especially since it'd perpetuate the "hands-off" analog focus.

Not to mention the whole subject of contrast as a result between ECN2 and C41 is fascinating in this sort of context (I'd imagine C41 RA-4 would be more accurate since it'd likely add back the contrast that RA-4 lacks in comparison to proper Kodak 2383 / 2386 printing).
https://emulsive.org/articles/a-deeper-d...-cinestill Wrote:
[Image: 05-No-correction-RA-4-contact-print-expo...32-sec.jpg]
Above: No correction RA-4 contact print exposure test, 1-32 sec.
From left to right:
CineStill 800T with Cs41, Kodak VISION3 500T 5219 with Cs41, Kodak VISION3 500T 5219 with ECN-2 Kit, 5219 with Cs2 Kit, Kodak VISION3 500T 5219 machine processed ECN-2 by FotoKem Motion Picture Lab.
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