open matte & full screen main thread

[Stamper]

I'm not 100% certain, but on ALIENS for example, it looks to me there are zooms added to the different cropping (like when they first see a victim and burn the Alien coming out of her). So that means it's not just a case of overlaying better resolution transfers, you also have to take into account Cameron added zooms to the Pan & Scan versions, and actually, I do remember him saying he would improve the film that way when doing the P&S master.

[Nfsfan83]

about Aliens guys check this:

https://filmcolors.org/galleries/aliens-1986/

and compare to HDTV, DVD SE, BD or Thai 4:3

[Bilbofett]

I've spent probably about 3-4 hours now testing, retesting, trying every possible setting.. I cannot get 2 identical scenes (same rez, similar color grading, same fps, etc.) to overlay correctly in Auto Overlay avisynth. Is it because one is PAL widescreen and the other is PAL fullscreen? I want to overlay the higher quality widescreen footage on top of the lower quality fullscreen, so it becomes like an "open matte". Would it help if I artificially forced one or the other's aspect ratio? I also cropped the widescreen one.. didn't make any difference. Res of both are 720x576 (widescreen one gets down to 544 if I crop). Here's my script, which is prob full of mistakes:
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widescreen=directshowsource("V:\PAL SCENE 16x9-from premiere.mov")
openmatte=directshowsource("V:\PAL SCENE Full Frame-from premiere.mov")
OverlayConfig(aspectRatio1=1.78, subpixel=3)
OverlayEngine(openmatte, widescreen, editor=true)
#ComplexityOverlay(widescreen, openmatte)
OverlayRender(openmatte, widescreen, colorAdjust=1, mode=3, gradient=20)
#OverlayCompare(widescreen, openmatte)

[PDB]

Welcome to my world. Same issues for me no matter the settings I can never get alignment.

[bobbster574]

I've spent probably about 3-4 hours now testing, retesting, trying every possible setting.. I cannot get 2 identical scenes (same rez, similar color grading, same fps, etc.) to overlay correctly in Auto Overlay avisynth. Is it because one is PAL widescreen and the other is PAL fullscreen? I want to overlay the higher quality widescreen footage on top of the lower quality fullscreen, so it becomes like an "open matte". Would it help if I artificially forced one or the other's aspect ratio? I also cropped the widescreen one.. didn't make any difference. Res of both are 720x576 (widescreen one gets down to 544 if I crop). Here's my script, which is prob full of mistakes:
----
widescreen=directshowsource("V:\PAL SCENE 16x9-from premiere.mov")
openmatte=directshowsource("V:\PAL SCENE Full Frame-from premiere.mov")
OverlayConfig(aspectRatio1=1.78, subpixel=3)
OverlayEngine(openmatte, widescreen, editor=true)
#ComplexityOverlay(widescreen, openmatte)
OverlayRender(openmatte, widescreen, colorAdjust=1, mode=3, gradient=20)
#OverlayCompare(widescreen, openmatte)

yeah so ive found resizing one of teh sources to fit the other source dramatically helps with the auto tracking. for TDK's fullscreen DVD it seems the frame is actually closer to 1.35:1 but stretched slightly to 1.33:1. stretching it back helped tremendously. 
however even then i have found that there will always be some shots that just dont track automatically and require manual tracking

[SwatDB]

The Thai Aliens DVD seems to be easier to find now



and 4

Especially when I'm having a difficult time getting, This, The Abyss (1989) [Theatrical Version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UcqGi53Ycs], True Lies (1994) on 2 in 1 DVDs, from Thai DVD from Boomerangshop.com and Shopee.co.th (since they can't ship internationally).

[Nfsfan83]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQdAmZOiF1k&t=19s

I love full frame open matte but why this is pan scan DVD

Is it Laserdisc rip but quality not very good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-usqLE6j4yQ