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Just discovered today that eac3to wrongly assign channels when converting DTS-HD MA 7.1 to another format - I tried WAV and FLAC; used eac3to 3.31.0.0 and 3.34.0.0 with UsEac3To and AudioMixer GUIs, so I guess the problem is not in the GUI itself.
What it basically does is to swap side and rear surround channels;
so the original DTS-HD MA 7.1
L R C LFE Lss Rss Lsr Rsr
after convertion became
L R C LFE Lsr Rsr Lss Rss
If someone could confirm or deny this, it would be useful!
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Have you tried ffmpeg for comparison?
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(2020-11-01, 06:39 PM)TomArrow Wrote: Have you tried ffmpeg for comparison?
Nope, too lazy...
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Eac3to uses libdcadec to decode DTS-HD MA. If you are using an Arcsoft decoder for comparison, believe it or not, Arcsoft is probably wrong. There is a long discussion about this here: https://github.com/foo86/dcadec/issues/8
Arcsoft decoder has different bugs depending on which version you are using.
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(2020-11-02, 09:17 AM)Doctor M Wrote: If you are using an Arcsoft decoder for comparison, believe it or not, Arcsoft is probably wrong.
Actually the only thing I compared is channel order, so the result WAV or FLAC could even be wrongly decoded (not bit-perfect)... if I'd have to choose, I'd prefer a 99% "bit-perfection" but with right channel order!
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2020-11-02, 04:18 PM
(This post was last modified: 2020-11-02, 04:47 PM by Chewtobacca.)
Different codecs use different channel-orders. AFAIK, the channel-order that eac3to assigned to the FLAC file is correct.
L, R, C, LFE, BL (LSR), BR (RSR), SL (LSS), SR (RSS): Flac
L, R, C, LFE, SL (LSS), SR (RSS), BL (LSR), BR (RSR): DTS
Doctor M is right that certain versions of Arcsoft are known to have issues with this. Use libdcadec.
EDIT: The channel names in brackets show DTS's terminology as opposed to Microsoft's. It can be confusing.
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^ libdcadec is the way to go from my research too. And it's been merged into ffmpeg so that should give the best results.
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So, a nice GUI that could convert DTS-HD MA 7.1 to WAV (or FLAC) preserving the DTS channel order?
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GUI ... pfah
Here spoRv
Code: ffmpeg -i "inputfile.ending" -compression_level 12 "output.flac"
The compression_level is optional if you want the best flac compression in existence (that I found).
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(2020-11-02, 04:49 PM)spoRv Wrote: So, a nice GUI that could convert DTS-HD MA 7.1 to WAV (or FLAC) preserving the DTS channel order?
Why would you want to preserve the DTS channel-order in a non-DTS file that requires a different channel-order? There is nothing wrong with a codec using a different channel-order: it's just a matter of storage. As long as the channel-order is consistent internally and respected by applications, there's no problem.
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