Posts: 7,153
Threads: 601
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 1081
Given 1460 thank(s) in 963 post(s)
Country:
I had the chance to watch and rewatch several movies in a 5.1 home theater setup, and I noticed that the Italian BD of Star Trek Beyond (Italian language too), has some dialog panning - notable example at 1h00m00s shot
I was surprised, as sadly I am so used to locked dialog coming from center channel; and it was a very welcome surprise!
After I made my homeworks, I discovered that Dolby adviced to use only center channel for dialogs, to avoid crosstalk problems using Dolby matrix surround - problems soon solved, but the advice remained...
So, I wonder, which other movies have directional dialogs? Post your discoveries here! THANKS!!!
Posts: 4,964
Threads: 173
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 2940
Given 2837 thank(s) in 1248 post(s)
Country:
Temple of Doom pans dialogue in the BD, DVD and especially the laserdisc. Don’t know about the UHD.
The Patton AC3 LD pans dialog.
Mission to Mars pans dialogue in a 360 through the surrounds even for one scene.
Posts: 2,611
Threads: 45
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 1518
Given 906 thank(s) in 576 post(s)
Escape From New York, one of the early mix has directional dialogue.
Doesn't Die Hard too?
Posts: 2,383
Threads: 37
Joined: 2015 Apr
Thanks: 1905
Given 402 thank(s) in 332 post(s)
Country:
2021-07-17, 07:01 PM
(This post was last modified: 2021-07-17, 07:04 PM by dvdmike.)
A Few Good Men 1992 4k front soundstafe panning of dialogue
Posts: 637
Threads: 75
Joined: 2015 Feb
Thanks: 1128
Given 397 thank(s) in 223 post(s)
Country:
The Longest Day (1962) - US DVD, US BD - English DD 4.0 - Most dialogue is directional
Posts: 390
Threads: 23
Joined: 2019 Oct
Thanks: 377
Given 510 thank(s) in 180 post(s)
Country:
Logan's Run has some nice dialogue panning, particularly in the first scene where Logan and Jessica meet. I think it's on all 5.1 versions, including the Blu Ray.
Program material is recorded on the other side of this disc...
Posts: 656
Threads: 106
Joined: 2015 Apr
Thanks: 225
Given 610 thank(s) in 254 post(s)
Country:
I've often wondered if directional dialogue in a 5.1 audio track is a clue that it may be a port of an original 70mm 6-track mix (particularly where surrounds are also mono). In modern 5.1 remixes, it seems to be gospel that dialogue be locked to the centre channel.
Posts: 4,964
Threads: 173
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 2940
Given 2837 thank(s) in 1248 post(s)
Country:
That’s a Dolby thing. Once Dolby took over the optical and 70mm business they mandated that dialog should be limited to center channel only. That made decoding the matrix channels without dialog channel leak easier for final mix to DS.
If you didn’t lock the dialog to the center you ran the risk of Dolby not certifying the soundtrack. Of course things slipped through once Dolby started being less hardcore about those things. Temple is a good example.
Old 70mm tracks before Dolby often moved the dialog around to the location of the character onscreen. It was a common occurrence. So if you do hear that it is more likely it’s a true pre-Dolby 70mm track. But there is no guarantee.