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I had the chance to watch and rewatch several movies in a 5.1 home theater setup, and I noticed that the Italian BD of Star Trek Beyond (Italian language too), has some dialog panning - notable example at 1h00m00s shot
I was surprised, as sadly I am so used to locked dialog coming from center channel; and it was a very welcome surprise!
After I made my homeworks, I discovered that Dolby adviced to use only center channel for dialogs, to avoid crosstalk problems using Dolby matrix surround - problems soon solved, but the advice remained...
So, I wonder, which other movies have directional dialogs? Post your discoveries here! THANKS!!!
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Temple of Doom pans dialogue in the BD, DVD and especially the laserdisc. Don’t know about the UHD.
The Patton AC3 LD pans dialog.
Mission to Mars pans dialogue in a 360 through the surrounds even for one scene.
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Escape From New York, one of the early mix has directional dialogue.
Doesn't Die Hard too?
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2021-07-17, 07:01 PM
(This post was last modified: 2021-07-17, 07:04 PM by dvdmike.)
A Few Good Men 1992 4k front soundstafe panning of dialogue
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The Longest Day (1962) - US DVD, US BD - English DD 4.0 - Most dialogue is directional
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Logan's Run has some nice dialogue panning, particularly in the first scene where Logan and Jessica meet. I think it's on all 5.1 versions, including the Blu Ray.
Program material is recorded on the other side of this disc...
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I've often wondered if directional dialogue in a 5.1 audio track is a clue that it may be a port of an original 70mm 6-track mix (particularly where surrounds are also mono). In modern 5.1 remixes, it seems to be gospel that dialogue be locked to the centre channel.
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That’s a Dolby thing. Once Dolby took over the optical and 70mm business they mandated that dialog should be limited to center channel only. That made decoding the matrix channels without dialog channel leak easier for final mix to DS.
If you didn’t lock the dialog to the center you ran the risk of Dolby not certifying the soundtrack. Of course things slipped through once Dolby started being less hardcore about those things. Temple is a good example.
Old 70mm tracks before Dolby often moved the dialog around to the location of the character onscreen. It was a common occurrence. So if you do hear that it is more likely it’s a true pre-Dolby 70mm track. But there is no guarantee.