(2022-01-20, 03:24 PM)Klexos Wrote: Thank you. Yes indeed they do, I will be trying this in the next couple of hours when Black Panther finishes rendering.
From what I understand the final file will have DV with HDR fallback, thing is I don't have a DV screen to test it on so the file will always fallback on HDR on my devices, so I can practically only test the HDR fallback and see if the mediainfo is as it should. 
Do you or anyone else have the possibility to test and see if the DV metadata ported correctly (visually) by actually playing it on a compatible device?

I can playback DV in an mkv on my setup.

Same here.

Well, I'll be damned. Upon playing the file and then investigating further it seems the UHD Blu-Ray has missing frames compared to the WEB-DL. It gets temporarily desynched every so often (multiple times each minute) by 1 frame too, making it unreasonable to manually fix and adjust. And yes I tried 2 different UHD BD Remuxes. One from playBD and one I made myself from the full disc. The result was always the exact same. So sadly this can't be done this way.

Not sure if it's worth it (doing improved versions using the UHD Blu-ray discs) for the slight PQ increase.

I quit Marvel a long time ago when the quality of the film dropped, but these IMAX versions have revived my interest as it makes the films more watchable. I stay more alert when the screen size change, so that makes me able to stand drivel like Ragnarok or Black Panther.

So now I have to watch them all in order LOL. I have never seen the last two Avengers movies. I watched Dr Strange the other day and quite liked it, though it misses a scene where he has to remote operate someone he loves. They should have included one in where he uses the hands of the guy who doesn't like him. That should have made the character inner turmoil more emotionally stronger.

(2022-01-21, 12:06 PM)Stamper Wrote: Not sure if it's worth it (doing improved versions using the UHD Blu-ray discs) for the slight PQ increase.

I quit Marvel a long time ago when the quality of the film dropped, but these IMAX versions have revived my interest as it makes the films more watchable. I stay more alert when the screen size change, so that makes me able to stand drivel like Ragnarok or Black Panther.

So now I have to watch them all in order LOL. I have never seen the last two Avengers movies. I watched Dr Strange the other day and quite liked it, though it misses a scene where he has to remote operate someone he loves. They should have included one in where he uses the hands of the guy who doesn't like him. That should have made the character inner turmoil more emotionally stronger.

You are quite correct, I actually noticed the DSNP IMAX WEB looks actually better than the UHD Blu-Ray most of the time too, zoomed at 100/200% even lol
The UBD is actually a little blurrier surprisingly. Even in fast-paced sequences, the difference is almost nonexistent. I am not sure why some people said significant detail was scrubbed all over. It's literally not lol 
I think it was just assumed so or a placebo-like effect knowing the bitrate is higher on the UBD. I attribute this to the fact that these movies are mastered at 2K and the 4K releases are literally bloated, so the extra UBD bitrate does almost nothing.
Downscaling the 4K IMAX to 1080p and then actually upscaling it back to 4K with Topaz properly for example actually gives a much better, richer in detail and sharper picture than all official 4K masters.

By the way, wish you a good MCU viewing.
Been using this for years now to watch everything in plot-chronological order. Guy always keeps the list up to date too.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...edit#gid=0

I noticed that Spider-Man Far From Home was also enhanced, but not on Disney, people says Spider-man Far from Home 4K has IMAX Enhanced on Fandangonow.

If you look around, you can locate this unique version. I wonder what other Marvel movies were already available in IMAX prior to this.

(2022-01-21, 12:38 PM)Stamper Wrote: I noticed that Spider-Man Far From Home was also enhanced, but not on Disney, people says Spider-man Far from Home 4K has IMAX Enhanced on Fandangonow.

If you look around, you can locate this unique version. I wonder what other Marvel movies were already available in IMAX prior to this.

Yes it is. Indeed there are several WEBs around for the IMAX version of Far From Home. A beefy 78.1 GB file. Even higher nominal bitrate than the UHD BD, never had seen anything like that before. Someone recently added the DV metadata to it as well.

Speaking of, you guys should be aware of this regarding the newly available Eternals IMAX version.
I checked through it and it seems Disney+ put out only the "middle" format



Meaning the full picture might never see the light of day on home media. If they didn't put it now on Disney+ with the whole IMAX advertising they made I don't know when and where they ever would.

(2021-11-28, 05:31 AM)stwd4nder2 Wrote:

(2021-11-27, 11:22 PM)Hitcher Wrote: Where do you find out this information?

Just listen to any of these mixes on a half decent setup. You don't have to be an expert to notice how neutered they sound to compared to other audio mixes.

So are you saying it's better to stick with just the DD+ soundmixes from the streaming versions?

That would be fine as deleting both TrueHD Atmos and DTS-HD will save space.

(2022-01-21, 04:51 PM)Stamper Wrote: So are you saying it's better to stick with just the DD+ soundmixes from the streaming versions?

That would be fine as deleting both TrueHD Atmos and DTS-HD will save space.

I haven't listened to them personally, but I would assume the D+ versions are just lossy encodes of the same mix. I'd stick with the TrueHD.

On a related note does anyone have a BEQ setup? I've heard it can help a lot for these atmouse mixes, but I haven't felt the need to invest in a miniDSP yet.

I'm intrigued by all those different mixes and lack of dynamics things, so I did a little research on the blu site, and here's what the critic says regarding audio:

Phase 1

Iron Man
Iron Man's UHD features a Dolby Atmos soundtrack. The opening gun battle doesn't disappoint, but it also doesn't hugely impress. With a Disney track one must always wonder if it's going too play at low volume and with anemic bass. That's not the case here, at least not entirely. It would not be fair to call the track "anemic," but "somewhat challenged" does sound applicable.
With a Dolby TrueHD 5.1 track, the audio performance of Iron Man features the most aggressive LFE content this reviewer has ever heard. I wouldn't call the audio "bass-heavy", because it maintained a good balance. It's just that an incredible amount of material is assigned to the subwoofer, which effectively shook the room. We're talking prodigious levels here. If you share a wall or your floor is someone's ceiling, you may seriously want to consider turning your subwoofer down.
BOTTOM LINE: KEEP BOTH

Phase 2

Guardians of the Galaxy [Vol. 1]
Guardians of the Galaxy's Dolby Atmos soundtrack is of good general quality with the volume boosted to adjust for Disney engineering norms. The track is not wanting for greatly added low end raw power, spacial awareness, or overall detail.
From the moment the Ravagers spotlight young Peter Quill to the climactic battle between the Guardians and Ronan, Disney's DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 surround track makes a strong case for naming it the lossless mix of the year.
BOTTOM LINE: KEEP THE DTS-HD MA.

Phase 3

Captain America: Civil War
Captain America: Civil War's UHD disc features a Dolby Atmos soundtrack. Per Disney norms, the track lacks volume at calibrated reference levels and requires an upward volume adjustment (around 7 db) to fully enjoy. Once it's there, the track's dynamics and details emerge.
Captain America: Civil War boasts a very good, but not quite reference quality, DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 lossless soundtrack.
BOTTOM LINE: NONE OF THOSE MATTER, YOU MIGHT AS WELL KEEP THE DD+ STREAM AUDIO.

Doctor Strange
With Disney's Dolby Atmos soundtrack for Doctor Strange, there's certainly a feel for sound compression, at least in part of the range.
Doctor Strange features a reference-quality DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 lossless soundtrack. The presentation is first-rate, never wanting for any more power or depth. The low end is prodigious, deep and boomy and balanced to the action on the screen.
BOTTOM LINE: KEEP THE DTS HD.

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2's Dolby Atmos soundtrack marks a nice little improvement over the Blu-ray's DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 lossless soundtrack. This presentation plays with a noticeably fuller and more robust stance.
BOTTOM LINE: KEEP THE ATMOS

Thor Ragnarok
Thor: Ragnarok's Dolby Atmos soundtrack adds height channel effects to the presentation that are absent on the 7.1 DTS-encoded Blu-ray. The differences aren't substantial, but neither are they insignificant.
Thor: Ragnarok's DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 lossless soundtrack delivers a dense and detailed and effortlessly fluid listening experience. Sound details swoop and sweep with dynamic, traversing detail while taking advantage of every speaker around the listener.
BOTTOM LINE: EQUAL, YOU MIGHT WANT TO KEEP BOTH

Black Panther
In terms of the low volume thing Disney has going on, there's no difference between this Dolby Atmos soundtrack and the Blu-ray's DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 lossless soundtrack. While both are largely fine when turned up well beyond one's normal, comfortable listening levels, the studio's insistence on delivering rather comparatively (to other discs) puny soundtracks is a mystery.
BOTTOM LINE: KEEP THE DD+ FROM THE STREAM

Avengers: Infinity War
Like the companion Blu-ray's DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 lossless soundtrack, Avengers: Infinity War's UHD Dolby Atmos audio presentation suffers Disney-itis, meaning a generalized low volume and reduction in low end output. At normal reference listening levels, the sound plays low.
Avengers: Infinity War's Blu-ray does not include the UHD's Dolby Atmos track. The disc's DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 lossless soundtrack again suffers from Disney's reduced output encoding. At this reviewer's normal calibrated listening level, the track produces a light, shallow sound, with dialogue approaching whisper levels and action lacking audible intensity.
BOTTOM LINE: KEEP THE DD+ FROM THE STREAM

Ant-Man and the Wasp
Ant Man and The Wasp's 4K UHD presentation takes an already excellent sounding DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 track on the 1080p Blu-ray version and (literally) ups the ante at least intermittently with an occasionally effective Dolby Atmos track, something that should relieve some fans who have previously worried about some lackluster sonics on Disney and/or Marvel offerings.
BOTTOM LINE: KEEP BOTH

Captain Marvel
Captain Marvel's Dolby Atmos soundtrack shares many of the same characteristics as the companion Blu-ray's 7.1 lossless configuration, including the necessary upward volume knob boost several decibels above reference, calibrated norms.
The included DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 lossless soundtrack is yet another low volume output Disney offering. Adjusting it upwards several decibels from standard calibrated reference levels yields a fairly stout and enjoyable listen with no shortage of surround and subwoofer activity, though the latter feels a little stymied from time to time.
BOTTOM LINE: KEEP THE DD+ FROM THE STREAM

Avengers: Endgame
Avengers: Endgame's UHD disc features a Dolby Atmos soundtrack that, like the 7.1 lossless presentation paired with the Blu-ray, is a bit more on the up-and-up than many of its Disney audio peers. The track is fairly commanding at reference level.
Disney continues its tradition of downgrading audio for the Blu-ray, presenting Avengers: Endgame on the format with a DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 lossless soundtrack while the UHD earns a Dolby Atmos presentation. It does not continue the tradition of downgrading volume and downplaying dynamics, at least not to the studio's normal extent. While the track is not a monster, as one might reasonably expect it to be, it does play at a more balanced level at reference volume while finding firmer low end output and dynamic range than many of its predecessors.
BOTTOM LINE: KEEP THE ATMOS

Phase 4

Black Widow
The UHD receives an audio upgrade with a Dolby Atmos soundtrack (as opposed to the Blu-ray's DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 lossless soundtrack) and the presentation depth and detail are upgraded, too. Rather than just add some overhead channels, Disney has assuaged, though not at all eliminated, the low volume and troubling absentee bass from the Blu-ray to offer a bit more of a kick with this one.
BOTTOM LINE: KEEP THE ATMOS

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
Disney brings Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings to the UHD format with a Dolby Atmos soundtrack (the Blu-ray includes a DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 lossless track as its main presentation). This one is a modest improvement over the flat and hushed Blu-ray track. It's not quite so reserved and tame for volume or bass but both are still lacking, just not quite so seriously as the Blu-ray.
BOTTOM LINE: KEEP THE ATMOS