(2026-09-04, 12:51 PM)Kado_2020 Wrote:

(2026-09-04, 12:45 PM)zoidberg Wrote: The first Seven DVD used the same mix as the laserdiscs which was the near-field mix made for the Criterion by Ren Klyce.

Sering as we're going wildly off track I'll tell everyone what I had for breakfast, a full English. Okay once in a while but I won't be hungry now until much later in the day

No, you're wrong, this is a theatrical mix; I did frequency analysis on the center channel. Have you ever heard the mix on the dvd before ?

It's really not.

I'm trying to use reaper with ltrtmatrix decoder to extract the matrix channels from the 2.0 pcm
Has anyone managed to get this working and listened to it in 4.0/or 5.0 on a proper system to compare with the 5.1
Thanks

(2026-09-05, 05:15 AM)dvdmike Wrote:

(2026-09-04, 12:51 PM)Kado_2020 Wrote:

(2026-09-04, 12:45 PM)zoidberg Wrote: The first Seven DVD used the same mix as the laserdiscs which was the near-field mix made for the Criterion by Ren Klyce.

Sering as we're going wildly off track I'll tell everyone what I had for breakfast, a full English. Okay once in a while but I won't be hungry now until much later in the day

No, you're wrong, this is a theatrical mix; I did frequency analysis on the center channel. Have you ever heard the mix on the dvd before ?

It's really not.

The 97 dvd version transmits sound over long distances much more clearly than many theatrical mixes; something a close-range mix could never achieve. If you don't believe it, you can test the differences yourself If you cannot hear a significant difference, your ears are probably damaged.

(2026-09-05, 02:04 PM)Kado_2020 Wrote: The 97 dvd version transmits sound over long distances much more clearly than many theatrical mixes; something a close-range mix could never achieve. If you don't believe it, you can test the differences yourself If you cannot hear a significant difference, your ears are probably damaged.

If you're going to come out with statements like this you're going to have to provide proof.

Hi all
Just wanted to write in that I caught the 35th screening in Aus tonight at reading cinema
Guess what.. they played the CDS AUDIO OMG. There is drums in the opening scene when the first guy gets killed, and I can hear rear echo effects, the shooting in the lift and helicopter under the bridge. 100% not the remixed audio.
The opening text of this 3d version is no longer there, and is replaced with 4K version text. I could see some film grain in there and I think some of the colours were adjusted.
I am wondering, if by some miracle, they do release a new 4K version from this - if they do, then this could be another audio source to compare with from what has been founded thus far.

(2026-09-05, 03:26 PM)zoidberg Wrote:

(2026-09-05, 02:04 PM)Kado_2020 Wrote: The 97 dvd version transmits sound over long distances much more clearly than many theatrical mixes; something a close-range mix could never achieve. If you don't believe it, you can test the differences yourself If you cannot hear a significant difference, your ears are probably damaged.

If you're going to come out with statements like this you're going to have to provide proof.

Let me share the cinema dts and dvd ac3 files with you, hear it with your own ears.

(2026-09-05, 02:04 PM)Kado_2020 Wrote:

(2026-09-05, 05:15 AM)dvdmike Wrote:

(2026-09-04, 12:51 PM)Kado_2020 Wrote:

(2026-09-04, 12:45 PM)zoidberg Wrote: The first Seven DVD used the same mix as the laserdiscs which was the near-field mix made for the Criterion by Ren Klyce.

Sering as we're going wildly off track I'll tell everyone what I had for breakfast, a full English. Okay once in a while but I won't be hungry now until much later in the day

No, you're wrong, this is a theatrical mix; I did frequency analysis on the center channel. Have you ever heard the mix on the dvd before ?

It's really not.

The 97 dvd version transmits sound over long distances much more clearly than many theatrical mixes; something a close-range mix could never achieve. If you don't believe it, you can test the differences yourself If you cannot hear a significant difference, your ears are probably damaged.

What long distances? 15 feet isn't that long.

(2026-09-05, 06:23 PM)Adis Wrote:

(2026-09-05, 02:04 PM)Kado_2020 Wrote:

(2026-09-05, 05:15 AM)dvdmike Wrote:

(2026-09-04, 12:51 PM)Kado_2020 Wrote:

(2026-09-04, 12:45 PM)zoidberg Wrote: The first Seven DVD used the same mix as the laserdiscs which was the near-field mix made for the Criterion by Ren Klyce.

Sering as we're going wildly off track I'll tell everyone what I had for breakfast, a full English. Okay once in a while but I won't be hungry now until much later in the day

No, you're wrong, this is a theatrical mix; I did frequency analysis on the center channel. Have you ever heard the mix on the dvd before ?

It's really not.

The 97 dvd version transmits sound over long distances much more clearly than many theatrical mixes; something a close-range mix could never achieve. If you don't believe it, you can test the differences yourself If you cannot hear a significant difference, your ears are probably damaged.

What long distances? 15 feet isn't that long.

My cousin has been working as a cinema projectionist in the same city for years. The auditorium is quite large it seats about 100 people. Whenever he finds the time sometimes late at night he runs test screenings

(2026-09-05, 07:14 PM)Kado_2020 Wrote:

(2026-09-05, 06:23 PM)Adis Wrote:

(2026-09-05, 02:04 PM)Kado_2020 Wrote:

(2026-09-05, 05:15 AM)dvdmike Wrote:

(2026-09-04, 12:51 PM)Kado_2020 Wrote: No, you're wrong, this is a theatrical mix; I did frequency analysis on the center channel. Have you ever heard the mix on the dvd before ?

It's really not.

The 97 dvd version transmits sound over long distances much more clearly than many theatrical mixes; something a close-range mix could never achieve. If you don't believe it, you can test the differences yourself If you cannot hear a significant difference, your ears are probably damaged.

What long distances? 15 feet isn't that long.

My cousin has been working as a cinema projectionist in the same city for years. The auditorium is quite large it seats about 100 people. Whenever he finds the time sometimes late at night he runs test screenings

I too was working as a cinema projectionist (35mm), and I used to mount 2X3 reels of Alien 4 (and many others) on two projectors at midnight, bring my girlfriend into the 500-seat auditorium that I had the keys to as a cinema projectionist, and have crazy fun with her alone, if you know what I mean.
But I never played DVD titles in that 25m long auditorium, nope.

(2026-09-05, 07:54 PM)Adis Wrote:

(2026-09-05, 07:14 PM)Kado_2020 Wrote:

(2026-09-05, 06:23 PM)Adis Wrote:

(2026-09-05, 02:04 PM)Kado_2020 Wrote:

(2026-09-05, 05:15 AM)dvdmike Wrote: It's really not.

The 97 dvd version transmits sound over long distances much more clearly than many theatrical mixes; something a close-range mix could never achieve. If you don't believe it, you can test the differences yourself If you cannot hear a significant difference, your ears are probably damaged.

What long distances? 15 feet isn't that long.

My cousin has been working as a cinema projectionist in the same city for years. The auditorium is quite large it seats about 100 people. Whenever he finds the time sometimes late at night he runs test screenings

I too was working as a cinema projectionist (35mm), and I used to mount 2X3 reels of Alien 4 (and many others) on two projectors at midnight, bring my girlfriend into the 500-seat auditorium that I had the keys to as a cinema projectionist, and have crazy fun with her alone, if you know what I mean.
But I never played DVD titles in that 25m long auditorium, nope.

It would be better to keep your private life to yourself xD