Point Break (1991) Original Dolby Surround 2.0 Mix and 4.1 mix

[Bigrob]

There was also a DTS release from Fox on DVD with a DTS 4.0 track if that’s any help

[jonno]

Yeah, as has been suggested already, the best release of Point Break so far is the 2008 Fox version (Pure Adrenaline Edition).

It already includes the theatrical 4.0, and the logo at the beginning hasn't been messed with - also a big concern for many around here.

Slightly off on a tangent, I saw a fairly rare 35mm screening last year (from a beautifully preserved print) - the old Dolby SR track sounds phenomenal when heard as intended. The organisers even contacted Keanu to record a brief introduction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mC2dB4CXX8

[dwalkerdon]

Beware, TomArrow, when you are talking frequencies that high you are as likely to hear distortion from your equipment as you are any actual sounds. That said, I wouldn't use Opus for a lossless purpose.

I also don't understand this project. I can see copying the 2.0 track, but the Pure Adrenaline BD has the original 4.0 mix: Dolby Digital Audio English 448 kbps 4.0 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB

The reissued BD from Warner cuts this track and some other things to squeeze the film onto a BD25.

There is also a 4.1 mix, it was only on the 2001 DVD.

[dwalkerdon]

I will upload the untouched AC3 files on mediafire later on today.

[DoomBot]

I will upload the untouched AC3 files on mediafire later on today.

Yeah from now on i would only upload and share the original untouched audio files if you want someone to sync these, stick with the AC-3. Guys here are perfectly capable of re-encoding files if need be.

[dwalkerdon]

i have now uploaded the untouched AC3 2.0 and 4.1 mixes to mediafire

[captainsolo]

I only have the LD and the surround mix is very good for the time and still sounds excellent. I need to get the old BD.

[dwalkerdon]

why would you want a lossy audio mix of the movie in the first place?
the 5.1 on the BD is excellent and probably close (if not better) than what the 70mm mix sounded like in the theaters

the 2.0 mix is the original Dolby SR Mix that was on the 35mm Prints, and to me it sounds better than the 5.1 mix when it is played back on 2 channel audio setups . Also purists might want this particular mix because it reminds them of how it sounded on VHS/laserdisc.

[dwalkerdon]

Springfeel, you are somewhat correct about that, until i found out later why it sounded so bad, and I found out how to fix it!!

[dwalkerdon]

A VHS tape would likely sound better than a lossy 2.0 ac3 track

yeah, you are technically correct, but only since Dolby forces all of their Hardware (and most software) DD decoders to enable Dialnorm/DRC by default (so the volume level will always be way lower than any other source, which is the reason why i always convert an AC3 track to another format which gets rid of the DRC, but the guys in this forum always tell me its a bad idea, but I do it for this very reason!) 

The compression quality of DD/AC3 itself is great. They Managed to fit near CD quality sound on 35mm film using only using 320 Kbps for all 6 channels (in the early 90's, a feat!!!), but the moron who decided that Dialnorm belonged on the home version of AC-3 (the Theatrical version did not have Dialnorm/DRC) should have been fired as soon as he proposed that Idea. 

I found out that DD can sound as good as DTS/ DTS HD Master Audio, and Uncompressed LPCM while using Kodi (which does not enable Dialnorm/DRC on AC3 tracks) this weekend, and comparing the PCM bitstream output (SPDIF) to the Dolby Digital transcode/passthrough options. 

The regular PCM 2.0 passthrough sounded like a DTS/ CD track  while the AC3 Passthrough/Transcode sounded just like the optical DD output of my DVD player. I used the DVD of Days Of Thunder in the DVD Player, while I used the ripped version of that same title in Kodi.