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Death Machine 1994 Looking for right color grading
#11
That's a very nice overall correction toward what you said you want. You additionally de-crushed the dark areas, which is very nice too!  Halfway down in your first image/screengrab set, things get a little orangey with her face, but if you're affecting the entire film at once with de-blueing I don't see how that can be avoided.




Quote:I don't how do it in Virtual Dub



As I usually say in my posts, this is all just my amateur two cents as a possible approach; others may chime in with better advice!Smile That out of the way... If you have a lot of hard drive space, you can use VDub+Lagarith lossless codec to save out a few large chunks of the movie (with different gradings) and then later use the "Append AVI segment" menu option under the File tab with a new instance of VDub to piece-by-piece glue the newly-worked pieces back together (accurate to the frame). You do these appends in chronological order, using that menu option over and over (for each chunk) until everything is in place beginning to end. Then when you're sure it's the way you want you set VDub to "Direct stream copy" (to save time and processing energy), output a new avi that is now it. Smile




It takes a little practice, but I've done this a lot; I like this approach as the upside is it's very solid and robust; you can account for every frame easily. The downside is you end up with a large avi file for the whole (video of the) film, over 200GBs for 1920x1080 (that needs to be compressed to something new afterward of course, ala mp4). But if you have the hard drive space I say give it a try at least once, see if it works for you. (But you should leave the sound out of it with this appending method, more on that ahead.)




You really need to use Lagarith (or some lossless) codec though; saving your corrected chunks out from VDub with a compressy codec greatly diminishes your ability to have solid frame accuracy, and that's putting aside losing general image quality.



To recap, if almost all the scenes in your movie are good with your overall correction except two or three, yeah, you can use VDub to make the few chunks that define what you want, then use VDub's "Append AVI segment" to frame-accurately stack/stitch those, and output to make a new, definitive avi master file of the video. But, yeah, consider this silent work on the video only; deal with the sound separately (muxing later with the compressed mp4 perhaps), do NOT expect VDub to handle your sound nicely when cutting and appending chunks of a movie. (Maybe someone will have better advice on that though; I've always had trouble with that.)



But if you don't want to do any of that with this project — do leave as one overall correction — it looks good, really! Smile
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#12
? Sorry about that weird spacing between paragraphs.  It looked fine in the editor. ?
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#13
WXM thanks for advice but now I only use one big correction for all movie. I know Append AVI segment, I use it many times when work on avi (but I don't have patience to synchro audio to all these new segments) Maybe my way isn't too professional but I don't have programs like Sony Vegas etc, programs which can correct scene by scene. I reduce bluea lot and I'm happy with that.

Many faces now are warm colors and I like Smile

I some one can show caps form JP Laserdisc will be cool.
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#14
Glad to hear you've got a grading you're happy with Nfsfan83.

Yes I do intend to give Death Machine a watch again along with Hardware. Perhaps I will enjoy them more some 10 years later.
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(2021-07-18, 11:38 AM)Nfsfan83 Wrote: WXM thanks for advice but now I only use one big correction for all movie.

Many faces now are warm colors and I like Smile

Using this one big correction you have indeed is something to like. Glad you found a single setting that works this well! Smile  "Maybe my way isn't too professional..."  I personally really like using Virtual Dub for a lot of things so I'm definitely not going to rag on the path you're taking; I, too, use it in more situations where others would probably use something fancier.

I'll sign out of this thread now since you have it all nicely good (and I definitely don't have the Japanese LD material to offer you!)
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last part of screens with my color change, I think now it is very nice Smile  One setting for all movie

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Quote:What I would do:

the BD has DTS-HD MA 5.1 and 2.0 soundtracks for both English and German, so I would not bother to include JP LD track, but I would add French, Italian and Spanish tracks - possibly 5.1 if they exist
as UK DVD has the bigger frame size, I'd merge it with BD to get bigger frame and best resolution

UK DVD is cut and non-anamorphic, tragic quality. I can see no use for it.
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(2021-07-20, 12:07 PM)Gieferg Wrote:
Quote:What I would do:

    the BD has DTS-HD MA 5.1 and 2.0 soundtracks for both English and German, so I would not bother to include JP LD track, but I would add French, Italian and Spanish tracks - possibly 5.1 if they exist
    as UK DVD has the bigger frame size, I'd merge it with BD to get bigger frame and best resolution

UK DVD is cut and non-anamorphic, tragic quality. I can see no use for it.

Interesting, I was just talking to someone regarding the different cuts of Death Machine.

This is how I see it, please - anyone - correct me if my info is wrong:

There's 3 versions out there:
The US theatrical: 99 min NTSC Region 1 DVD
Extended Cut - 122:05 Blu Ray - Turbine Media (Same as the Laserdisc Cut)
Director's Cut: 115:25 PAL Region 2 UK DVD (Cover says 111 mins)

https://movie-memorabilia-emporium.blogs...cover.html

The thing is, the Turbine Media Blu Ray is listed as the DC, but I believe that the shorter UK DVD is the DC and the Turbine Media Blu Ray should be called the Extended Cut.

I base this on the following IMDB Alternative Versions entry:
Director's Cut available in original 2.35:1 cinemascope ratio on Japanese Laserdisc but director hates his own version!. US cut substantially different, excising whole subplot. UK cut is the best, director approved.

And looking at both cuts the UK DVD cut feels like a tighter and more professional cut while the LD / Turbine Media cut feels more like an assembly cut.

But either way, the UK DVD cut has never made it to HD.
I don't think there is anything in the UK DVD cut that isn't in the Turbine Media cut - so the Turbine Media cut should / could be a start point for a fan editor to potentially recreate the UK DVD cut in HD.

So anyway, I'm not sure if this is a project that anyone would be up for or if it's already in progress somewhere, but I thought I'd put it out there, just in-case.
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https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=601208
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From what I know, DC is the 115 min UK version. I am not sure what's the point in recreating this version in HD though.
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