2021-02-13, 05:59 PM
Yay! Glad to hear. Good to know that the Amazon rip is indeed pretty good. I have to say that Encode 3 (the latest German BD) looks a lot worse in motion because the noise reduction results in weird grain fields.
[versions] DRACULA (1958) a.k.a. HORROR OF DRACULA
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2021-02-13, 05:59 PM
Yay! Glad to hear. Good to know that the Amazon rip is indeed pretty good. I have to say that Encode 3 (the latest German BD) looks a lot worse in motion because the noise reduction results in weird grain fields.
2021-02-13, 06:02 PM
(2021-02-13, 05:59 PM)The Aluminum Falcon Wrote: Yay! Glad to hear. Good to know that the Amazon rip is indeed pretty good. I have to say that Encode 3 (the latest German BD) looks a lot worse in motion because the noise reduction results in weird grain fields. Yup. It's quite noticeable, especially when you see what it looked like before.
2021-04-07, 12:45 AM
(This post was last modified: 2021-04-07, 12:47 AM by pipefan413.)
SUMMARY OF HD RELEASES TO DATE
Revisiting the comparisons for a number of reasons, one of which I'll get to at the end of this (long) post. What follows is a summary of sorts to serve as a quick reference for the differences between the versions. My start point is 24 frames before the start of the Universal logo on the 2007 UK master, i.e. 24 frames of black, then the Universal logo. All frame numbers are based on that and are counted from 0 rather than 1 (because that's how digital systems usually count and it keeps it simple for scripting and so on). 2002 US MASTER (Warner Bros., IP scan)
These are all based on a scan of a newly-struck interpositive Warner made from the negative materials for the 2002 DVD releases. They actually feature too much detail in places compared to actual theatrical prints, but conversely are rather soft and bland overall. There's also the signature magenta bias of most early DVD masters that were created on and for CRT screens.
2007 UK MASTER (British Film Institute, OCN scan)
These are all based on a restoration done by the BFI for a 2007 UK theatrical re-release, which was created from a scan of original negative materials provided by Warner Bros. in the US. They are the only releases without the additional footage from the Japanese cut that feature the original UK title of Dracula in the opening title sequence, as well as the Universal logos at the start and end of the film that are absent from US prints and the US IP-based master, but are otherwise the same editorially as the US theatrical cut (in other words, they do not follow the BBFC's censorship). Unfortunately, this being an otherwise excellent scan is somewhat marred by the fact that the colour grading is often aggressively wrong and the cropping may also be incorrect as well. The attempt to recreate the UK title sequence isn't great either, which I'll address separately in a moment.
The 2018 Warner Archive version is unique in that it features Warner's attempt to "fix" the rather dodgy BFI colour grading, but they messed this up quite badly in some ways. Often things are balanced when they actually shouldn't have been, and many things have changed colour that shouldn't have (e.g. green walls are turned blue when they were actually correctly graded as green in the BFI version). Warner also messed up the levels (confusion over limited vs full RGB range) which means that both the highlights and shadows are badly clipped, reducing detail at both ends of the dynamic range. As a minor point, the Warner version also removes a static credits panel from the end, which contains logos for the BFI, UK Film Council ("Lottery Funded"), and Midnight Transfer on the UK and German releases. When I took a brief look at the audio for all the releases a while back, I concluded that the Warner Archive release appeared to have the best sonic profile as well, but I would like to do a more in-depth analysis, which I'll try to do soon. So many things I want to do, so little time... RESTORING THE LOST UK TITLE SEQUENCE
One of the frustrations of the way this film has been released over the years is that it was never released - since 1958 - with the original UK title sequence intact. The film is owned by Warner these days as far as I can see; they hold the negatives in their archives in the US, and apparently they had no idea where the original element for the original UK title (Dracula) was. So for years, we've been getting the film - even in the UK - with the US title, Horror of Dracula, at the start. (The decision to retitle it almost certainly had to do with audiences in the US already being familiar with Bela Lugosi as Dracula because of Universal's black and white adaptation at the start of the 30s.) Warner only located the original title element after being urged to do so by the British Film Institute when they were creating a new restoration for a theatrical re-release in 2007. It appears, however, that the Dracula title sequence has been recreated by the BFI by reconstituting the existing US title sequence that Warner had already put together for their DVD transfer in 2002. There are a few different signs of this.
Since the BFI restoration in 2007 was being constructed from scans of the original negative materials, and those negative materials would not have had the fully composed titles on the background image, they (or Warner) opted to save time/effort/money (eeny, meeny, miney...) by just taking the exact same version of the title sequence that Warner had already created in 2002 for the DVD, which had the US title - Horror of Dracula - and the incorrect, blue sky and grey stone colour grading. Upon seeing one or more reference prints (either the Warner IP and/or a 16 mm print they found in the BFI archives), the BFI quite correctly noticed that the colour grading of the title sequence was actually wrong, and the stone was meant to look red instead of grey, so they made an attempt to fix it. Unfortunately, this knocked the colours off on the whole sequence, darkening the picture somewhat (so the sky is nowhere near as bright as it was, and the text is somewhat less saturated) and causing chroma bleed in the red channel, which now leaks into some bits of the highlights where it wasn't supposed to. To restore the Dracula title, they found a 16 mm print in the BFI archive bearing that title to confirm how it looked on the print (all the way to the edge of the print including edge codes and all that presumably), took a screen capture of one of the frames from it, and sent it to Warner in the US. Warner then searched for and, allegedly, found the original element bearing the UK title. This presumably just being the text and not the background, the BFI composited it into a loop of the background (possibly from the very start of the sequence before the text appears) and recreated the dissolve on either side so that it fit into the sequence, adding a tracker to the middle of the text so that it matched the gate weave of the background. I'm not sure if they only had a plate / single frame of the text or if it was a series of frames of the same thing, but if the former, then they've done something over the top of it to vary it from frame to frame so it doesn't look so obviously duplicated, which works fairly well. But as mentioned above, the colour isn't quite matched: the title looks a lot less saturated/bright than the surrounding text, which is fairly weird when you see it in context. I don't have any illusions about being able to do a better job than the BFI but I think I am going to at least try to see if I can learn something here, even if the results aren't ideal. If I can get it looking even a wee bit better than it does in the BFI restoration, I'll be happy as Larry. As the primary source, I'll most likely use the 2016 25 fps German Blu-ray, being potentially the highest quality encode of the old master (imperfect though it is). This will need to be fairly aggressively regraded while trying to keep the text in check, so I'm probably going to have to use power windows for this, which is a first for me. Combining power windows with the qualifier, though, it should be possible, it'll just be incredibly laborious (and not overly straightforward for someone who's never tried this sort of thing before). I'll loop some frames from the start to use as background for the title, which I'll have to isolate from the BFI restoration, and composite that on top after colour correcting it separately to restore more of a bold red to better match the rest of the text in the sequence.
2021-04-07, 07:29 PM
(This post was last modified: 2021-04-07, 07:50 PM by pipefan413.)
Quick runthrough of re-grading the US title sequence in preparation for attempting to composite the UK title into it. Needs a lot of work, you can see for example that blowing it out as much as this has clipped some of the bright edges of text. But blowing it out like this doesn't just match the print better, it also helps mask some of the horrible amount of video noise from the low-bitrate source, which is mostly in the sky and becomes basically invisible after compressing the crap out of the highlights.
Inside the crypt is a lot closer to start with so that's only been fairly subtly changed here; it's mostly just a bit of green plus taming the blown-out red highlights causing that pinkish haze around the blood. That was partly helped by expanding the highlights, got a little bit more control that way. EDIT: By the way, if you're wondering why I'm grading the external scene so warm, here's the LaserDisc (from a print scan)... Anyway, here goes: Thanks given by: shiftyeyes , captainsolo , PDB
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