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Personally, I see no need for "preserving" this mix in it's original "chase" form (i.e sped up and uppitched)
I HATE, with a passion, watching PAL sped-up versions due to the pitch changes. Annoys the hell outta me to the point where I usually correct anything that is from a PAL source, by remuxing the video (of course, at a slower framerate of 23.976) with corrected audio. I like hearing the audio the way it was intended to be heard originally 
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I can only imagine how people from the UK must react when they watch a movie in NTSC hehe
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Also I have my old VHS of T1 preserved on a DVD so I actually do have the 'PAL' mix preserved for myself
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Well, I could imagine that since they are accustom to hearing it sped-up, that the original "NTSC" footage must sound "off" to them.
I'm curious concerning your VHS2DVD transfer of T1; other than the fact that it's in the PAL format, is there anything different about your VHS copy that would be worth sharing with the community? Or is it just a "regular" PAL speed-up and P&S?
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AFAIK normally PAL speed stuff should be corrected pitchwise. In Germany was a faulty Lord of the Rings Extended BluRay release: The German Audio track was taken from a PAL speeded source, and just slowed down, but the pitch was not corrected. So everything was a bit lower tuned...
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(2016-01-15, 07:03 AM)jerryshadoe Wrote: Well, I could imagine that since they are accustom to hearing it sped-up, that the original "NTSC" footage must sound "off" to them.
I'm curious concerning your VHS2DVD transfer of T1; other than the fact that it's in the PAL format, is there anything different about your VHS copy that would be worth sharing with the community? Or is it just a "regular" PAL speed-up and P&S?
Granted its been a while since I watched it but I know that its missing an opening studio logo and also the two credits that appear singular before the credits role (one is the Harlan Ellison credit) are now timed to role with the credits. Heres an imdb description.
'There are significant differences between the first video releases (Thorn/EMI and HBO Video) and the 1991 Hemdale release in relation to picture, sound and end credits. The Thorn/EMI release has:
A blurry picture throughout
The entire film soundtrack played at the wrong pitch, which sounds like it was recorded on a cassette tape.
The Post Production and credit to Harlen Elison is inserted right above the copyright date and timed to roll along at the speed of the credits.
The HBO Video release has the same blurry picture and high pitch soundtrack with the following changes:
The post production credit rolls as soon as the movie fades to black. After disappearing, a black, cheaply done title card done with "1980s HBO Font" shows the Harlen Elison credit. The previous timed credit that appeared in the Thorn/EMI release has been blacked out and timed to run with the credits. The 1991 Hemdale release has the following:
Soundtrack restored to play at the correct pitch
Picture is sharp and clear. The 1991 Hemdale and the Artisan Entertainment release are identical.'
All the same Im glad that mono mix for Terminator is being preserved. Im really not crazy about the 5.1 remix thats become the standard mix for the film now. I may not mind the remix much if the optional mono track was included which its not other than on Region 1 DVDs.
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That depends on the film and, in some cases, on which country it was released in. There are certain films (and tv shows) that I have seen with proper pitch-correction on French and German releases, but no pitch correction on the Polish and Russian releases. (This is just an example, as I have seen it the other way around and with releases from some of the other European countries, as well) Then, sometimes, the DVD releases will have incorrect pitch, while their TV broadcast counter-parts from that country will have the proper pitch correction or vice-versa...
Over the years, I have synced more audio tracks than I care to remember and this is just my experience talking here... YMMV
EDIT: Just noticed an extra post, LOL...
I agree that it's a shame that the original mono is not included, as I (for the most part) hate revisionist remixes because they almost never sound better than the original mix. You know, the old saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" 
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Another reason I made that Jaws thread.
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I found this a bit interesting. Heres a few quotes from Van Ling, who was involved in the creation of T1’s 5.1 mix, and also pushed for the mono track to be included on the MGM SE DVD. I guess hes been outvoted on subsequent releases.
" a new sound mix a nice, true 5.1 We even had composer Brad Fiedel come back in and remix his music masters, and MGM hired Gary Rydstrom at Skywalker to do the overall remix on my recommendation. So MGM really put their money where their mouth was on this title."
" Yeah, the movie was mono originally. And there were a number of faux-stereo things out there. In my discussions with Lightstorm and talking with Cameron about it, we would always say that it would be cool to have something in stereo, but only if it was done right;and doing it right require some diligence, because you want to stay true to the mix and stay true to the balance that people have come to expect. But at the same time, you want to broaden the soundtrack a little bit. You don’t want to do something that is totally different because maybe part of the appeal was a way it sounded in mono. And that’s one of the things that was really important and one of the things that led Jim to say, “If you’re going to do it, do it right.” Its not just a matter of panning the mono right and left like some of the earlier faux-stereo mixes. And if I have my way on the disk configuration, MGM will also include the original mono audio as a separate track for the real purists."
Another one from over a year ago where he even says he prefers the mono.
“A tough question, but I think I lean towards the mono just because it was the original. I was the producer of the initial remix done by the great Gary Rydstrom back in 2000, and while I think he did an excellent job, there is something monolithic yet raw about the original mono mix that fits the film. Also, we found out later that there was a glaring omission in the remix, which was the metallic sounds—almost like that of a sword being drawn from a scabbard—of the letters in the title sliding past each other in the main titles. It turned out that the reason they were missing in the remix was that they were not on either the sound effects or the music masters for the film… they were on the dialogue stems for some reason. And those stems had been muted during the remix since there was no dialogue during the main titles! Lame explanation, but true.”
One more from 2011.
“I plead not guilty! I had nothing to do with the release of the Blu-ray version of Terminator – even though the publisher included part of my bonuses off the DVD edition. You may remember, when this disk was released in 2006, there were so many problems with the Blu-ray format (which was not ready and was rushed to avoid HD-DVD taking its place), that the programmers cut the discs down to the bare minimum. I don’t understand why they cut out the bonuses. Probably to save space…. They only used an extract of my documentary. Why not use it all? Well, it’s all in the past, a new HD digital restoration of the film, re-mastered using the original negative has been launched. I will do my utmost to ensure that the original mono mixing is on it, all the old bonuses incorporated and include new ones, such as unseen TV trailers for example or live BD extras. It should also include a bonus tribute to Stan Winston. We were in the process of working on it last year when we had to stop following MGM’s financial problems. So, for the time being the project is mothballed.”
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Just dug out my DVD-R I had done some 10 years ago of my old Thorn Emi tape of The Terminator. Wow blast from the past. Perhaps it's because the film is sped up but this version almost has a different look to it then the corrected version IMO. In almost looks like it was shot on video tape rather than film giving it a sorta TV movie like look to it.
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