2015-11-07, 12:36 AM
Indeed, it is VERY specific, awesome find! 
HUGE thanx for finding this. I went through the image numbers there and it appears that more of the film is there, which would be a cool extra for my project, so thanx for that as well.
This find verifies what I have suspected since I was a kid, Wart IS actually responding to something Merlin said. It has always sounded like that to me, kind like when you would record something on VHS and the first second or two was missing and then the audio starts abruptly. Wart speaking here, always sounded abruptly started.
Based on the evidence you present, the fact that we can see the lip movement in this scene, and the fact that the French dub contains the dialog, I am of the opinion that the English dialog must exist somewhere but whether it was included in official release is unclear. Maybe the French got to start on the dubbing process first, when the line was still included, thus they translated and included it unlike ANY other foreign language dub. That's what makes things hazy here, because why would that be the only one to include it?? I wish I could find an original 1963 release print to check this.
As far as a reconstruction on my end, I have found Merlin saying everything (well, for "Knight" I could only find him saying "night" but they sound identical so that wouldn't be a problem) EXCEPT the word "squire." I am currently looking at some voice-morphing apps, seeing if there is anything I could use to transform Wart's voice saying squire to Merlin's voice (as he says it a few times during the film and I have a lot of samples to work with) but it is a hard process and I might not be able to do it successfully
I know that there was extra/alternate recordings for some of the other parts of the film, because I located the OST Vinyl LP that has songs from the film with some dialog, as well. I am still trying to find a rip of the Vinyl that came with a pop-up story book, because it contained alternate dialog as well and I'm wondering if this might be on there.
(2015-11-06, 05:37 PM)TServo2049 Wrote: Well, the line most definitely WAS recorded and animated to, because it is on the animator drafts circulated around the studio during production. (These were scene/dialogue breakdowns, with who each scene's animation was assigned to and so on - this would obviously have been after all the dialogue was recorded and locked down.) Hans Perk has shared his huge collection of these on his blog, and I found this very scene:
http://www.afilm.com/blog/2138-TSitSdraft-073.jpg
According to this draft, the original line is almost identical to ilovewaterslides' English back-translation of the French dub:
"Well, after you become a squire then in time you'll be a knight I suppose."
So the only question remaining is if it was actually on any released English version, or if it was taken out during the final mix prior to release.
HUGE thanx for finding this. I went through the image numbers there and it appears that more of the film is there, which would be a cool extra for my project, so thanx for that as well.
This find verifies what I have suspected since I was a kid, Wart IS actually responding to something Merlin said. It has always sounded like that to me, kind like when you would record something on VHS and the first second or two was missing and then the audio starts abruptly. Wart speaking here, always sounded abruptly started.
Based on the evidence you present, the fact that we can see the lip movement in this scene, and the fact that the French dub contains the dialog, I am of the opinion that the English dialog must exist somewhere but whether it was included in official release is unclear. Maybe the French got to start on the dubbing process first, when the line was still included, thus they translated and included it unlike ANY other foreign language dub. That's what makes things hazy here, because why would that be the only one to include it?? I wish I could find an original 1963 release print to check this.
As far as a reconstruction on my end, I have found Merlin saying everything (well, for "Knight" I could only find him saying "night" but they sound identical so that wouldn't be a problem) EXCEPT the word "squire." I am currently looking at some voice-morphing apps, seeing if there is anything I could use to transform Wart's voice saying squire to Merlin's voice (as he says it a few times during the film and I have a lot of samples to work with) but it is a hard process and I might not be able to do it successfully
I know that there was extra/alternate recordings for some of the other parts of the film, because I located the OST Vinyl LP that has songs from the film with some dialog, as well. I am still trying to find a rip of the Vinyl that came with a pop-up story book, because it contained alternate dialog as well and I'm wondering if this might be on there.
