Some more info in this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/150-blu-ra...cence.html

Looks like 2.0 went back to the source materials (for the shots that weren't 'fixed').

(2017-08-20, 11:12 AM)zoidberg Wrote: Some more info in this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/150-blu-ra...cence.html

Looks like 2.0 went back to the source materials (for the shots that weren't 'fixed').

Wow. Great thread! Alot of questions answered!

They printed the final shots to film, then used the 'avid' to edit, that referenced the printed elements like a O-Neg.
So no Digital Master to speak of, even though the shots we're Digital Creations.
I missed this information in my original research years ago!
it's why I love this forum

Im still reading

(2017-08-20, 09:18 AM)CSchmidlapp Wrote: It looks that way
The whole process is not shown but it's definitely alluded to. Im not an expert on animation techniques to begin with.

If it was indeed all created digitally, what would the resolution of such a project be?
What we're the digital effects shots in 'Hollywood' films of that era, 2K?

Reading that Doom9 thread, it sounds more haphazard than the 'making of' leads us to believe.
At first I thought they digitally edited the film, but it sounds more like they digitally composed each shot, printed the shots to film and then cut the film together old school. But who knows if that is true.

As far as I know, Disney started their digital animation on CAPS in 2k and is still animating CG films in 2k to this day. CAPS was a dedicated workstation. AVID is not.
I suspect a mid 90's Mac would have struggled with full HD. I've yet to see any transfer of this film that has better than 720p detail, and it is quite possible at what they composited.

Edit: Is there one project being worked on here by BronzeTitan or more?
Have the audio tracks been chosen? I really don't hate the English dubs for this film. GitS movies/TV shows are always huge info dumps that make reading subs and following action a chore.

Well, I'm working on trying to make the best possible version of the HDTV version, don't know if there's anyone else working on something similar.
As for the making of shots, I gave them a quick onceover, and it certainly seems like it might be possible to repair a couple of the badly deinterlaced computer world shots.

Edit:
Does anyone know of a way to make a dynamic object of a movie? I'd like to warp to bluray to match the HDTV in photoshop. It almost perfectly ligns up with a slight upscale and reposition, I'd like to get a warp going to make it slightly better tho.

So I'd like to go:
Warp in Photoshop -> Render and CC in After Effects to Lossless Intermediary.

I'm not working on a project ... well, not yet anyway.   I'm mostly in research mode, digging to construct a pathology of the film. Naturally, ideas keep bouncing around inside this bronze head of mine. Ouch, there's another one ... a short video: remixed Starchaser song (SotirisMusic) timed to the firefight with the garbage man's contact. 

(2017-08-21, 06:18 PM)BronzeTitan Wrote: I'm not working on a project ... well, not yet anyway.   I'm mostly in research mode, digging to construct a pathology of the film. Naturally, ideas keep bouncing around inside this bronze head of mine. Ouch, there's another one ... a short video: remixed Starchaser song (SotirisMusic) timed to the firefight with the garbage man's contact. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF-ynVEUqmk

(BTW, thanks to everyone for the facts and theories and links. Great thread!)

Your one crazy statue!
I love it

(2017-08-21, 04:09 PM)Beetwaaf Wrote: Well, I'm working on trying to make the best possible version of the HDTV version, don't know if there's anyone else working on something similar.
As for the making of shots, I gave them a quick onceover, and it certainly seems like it might be possible to repair a couple of the badly deinterlaced computer world shots.

Edit:
Does anyone know of a way to make a dynamic object of a movie? I'd like to warp to bluray to match the HDTV in photoshop. It almost perfectly ligns up with a slight upscale and reposition, I'd like to get a warp going to make it slightly better tho.

So I'd like to go:
Warp in Photoshop -> Render and CC in After Effects to Lossless Intermediary.

Actually did something similiar ages ago for matching two sources together. I'd save the whole scene/movie into .jpg's, from both source 1 and source 2, and use Automate option in Photoshop to just reuse the auto-align function. But I had problems with this, as in the end, some shots would be like 1-2 pixels off from the rest of movie and they'd need manual align.

Maybe the movie just needs one splice through-out and not on every shot? You could just use then auto-align function on some random scene and check out the changed diameters of the source you want to splice in (like X and Y offset, maybe scaling etc) and just use these data in AviSynth.

(2017-08-21, 04:09 PM)Beetwaaf Wrote: I'd like to warp to bluray to match the HDTV

Try warpedresize: http://avisynth.nl/index.php/SimpleResize

(2017-08-21, 06:32 PM)CSchmidlapp Wrote: Your one crazy statue! I love it

Thanks! But not so crazy as to leave ancient Greece. Modern America is over-run by liberty-deconstructionists who are tearing down statues.     And my sword is in the repair shop. (You wouldn't believe what they're charging me -- an arm and a leg!)

(2017-08-21, 10:58 PM)BronzeTitan Wrote:

(2017-08-21, 06:32 PM)CSchmidlapp Wrote: Your one crazy statue! I love it

Thanks! But not so crazy as to leave ancient Greece. Modern America is over-run by liberty-deconstructionists who are tearing down statues.     And my sword is in the repair shop. (You wouldn't believe what they're charging me -- an arm and a leg!)

Hahahahahahahahaha. Legend.