(2019-05-16, 08:20 AM)alexpeden2000 Wrote: The 4K remastering is of Kubrick’s original 146 minute version of the film which premiered in the United States on May 23rd, 1980.

Are they seriously suggesting they're re-inserting the hospital scene at the end? I find that hard to believe, but this would be odd phrasing if they didn't.

1.77:1 opened up is fine. Many displays sightly overscan the image, so you get actual top and bottom 1.85 framing.

I'm sure it's a typo, but after that screwup with the missing fade out in the 2001 remaster who knows?

Confirmed as US Cut only (no extra scene at the end)


Just had a flick through the US Cut there with movie-censorship open & don't think recreating the European Cut from it would be possible sadly. Not without using some footage from the current Blu-Ray anyway..

It's hilarious and sad how much certain sites jumped all over a typo about the running time.

I don't see how the Euro cut would be hard to recreate? There are no optical wipes or transitions, it's all simple cuts. The soundtrack at those cuts might need to come from the current Blu-Ray. spoRv is working on a capture of the Italian Laserdisc, so the soundtrack at those cuts could be lifted from the Italian mono as well?

(2019-05-18, 09:22 PM)SilverWook Wrote: It's hilarious and sad how much certain sites jumped all over a typo about the running time.

I don't see how the Euro cut would be hard to recreate? There are no optical wipes or transitions, it's all simple cuts. The soundtrack at those cuts might need to come from the current Blu-Ray. spoRv is working on a capture of the Italian Laserdisc, so the soundtrack at those cuts could be lifted from the Italian mono as well?

But it's not just a typo about the running time. They specifically said "original 146 minute version of the film which premiered in the United States on May 23rd, 1980."

That premiere would have had the full hospital scene ending. It's incredibly annoying that WB would make a mistake (lie?) like that.

What they actually did was rush out a set using old video masters made for VHS and Laserdisc in the wake of Kubrick's death. They were transfers Kubrick had approved years before. Many a studio was using old transfers in the early days of DVD.

There's evidence to suggest the hospital scene still exists, somewhere. The Eastman House announced a screening several years ago specifically mentioning the lost ending and they had to make a retraction, presumably because the Kubrick estate intervened.

Steadicam operator Garrett Brown said in a recent podcast interview he specifically requested a print with it from Warners to show at a screening he was hosting. (He felt the hospital scene contained some of his best steadicam work.) His request was declined.

The original Kubrick DVD set is actually the best one.

Sure the masters are all 4/3 and are from the Laserdiscs era.

But they are all approved by Kubrick and the soundmixes included are all original mono or stereo.

Then when they re-released, is where they started to revisit everything the wrong way, with different colors and remixes.

The only box set worth it is the original one.

Also the 4K ACO has been available for 9 years. Clips from it are in the bonuses of the Blu-ray, it's a swindle, they could have remastered the BR in 2010.

They were doing 4K masters that far back? I had no idea. I'm still hopeful Criterion gets a shot at The Shining, since it looks like we're not getting any new extras or the mono track at this point. The 1999 DVD mono is a tad anemic.

Wizard Of Oz 8K scan is from 2009.

But then they released the 1080p version of it on Blu-ray.

They've been conning us the whole time regarding Kubrick.