there's an error in my sync? damn sorry lol

It's kind of funny because the glitch happens right when the jukebox woman turns around and looks at Arnie in awe, then the song "loses the beat" for a split second.

I had to re-edit this post due to the limited headroom of 16-bit audio. All files were processed in 24-bit

I created several lfe samples from the ac3 track of a Live dvd. I applied a 120 Hz low pass to all of them, setting the slope to a steep 48 dB per octave.

During the subwoofer test, we evaluated sounds ranging from 100 Hz to 124 Hz in 2 Hz increments—using both 36 dB and 48 dB slopes—and concluded that the best frequency response was achieved with the previously mentioned setting of 120 Hz and 48 dB/octave.

Ls Rs lfe combined with incorrect lfe
Gain level increased by 9.5 dB

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Q7DCzTv...PuBtz/view

Ls Rs lfe no gain applied

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p_fCeTi...vS6Dk/view

Incorrect lfe no gain applied

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A7uauIN...0h39s/view

So whats the verdict here? (or can there ever be a verdict?) Judging by the waveforms, the 2003 Japan DVD and the AC3 LD mixes are related while the Live DVD and the 2008 French BD have a different mix. Additionally, the metadata on the Live DVD states that its AC3 is most likely a near-field remix. So is it actually the CDS? Or is the LD and Japan DVD the true CDS mix? Or are they the 70mm mix? The world may never know

(2026-11-05, 07:09 PM)commandrbond Wrote: So whats the verdict here? (or can there ever be a verdict?) Judging by the waveforms, the 2003 Japan DVD and the AC3 LD mixes are related while the Live DVD and the 2008 French BD have a different mix. Additionally, the metadata on the Live DVD states that its AC3 is most likely a near-field remix. So is it actually the CDS? Or is the LD and Japan DVD the true CDS mix? Or are they the 70mm mix? The world may never know

Was CDS "farfield" when it was the first digital audio format in cinemas or was this just how it looked?
Until we can totally decide the CDS track (maybe this is the one good use of AI, point the CDS print scan with sprocket holes at claude and ask it to compile it into a 5.1 flac container)
It's all a guess without the actual track, but I trust Disclord.

Ok, so if we stick to Disclord's claim that the Live DVD (and thus the French BD) has the CDS mix, then what's on the AC3 LD and the 2003 Japanese DVD? Dolby Stereo Six Track?

(2026-11-05, 07:09 PM)commandrbond Wrote: Additionally, the metadata on the Live DVD states that its AC3 is most likely a near-field remix.

Can you share your evidence from the metadata please?

I may be misinformed as to its meaning, but "roomtyp" (Room Type) is listed as Small when you look at the metadata with Mediainfo. Same with the LD AC3 for True Lies, which we know to be a near-field mix.  Room Type is listed as either Large or Small.  I think thats a good indication of whether its a remix or not.  I could be wrong.

https://clickpix.org/image/AeVA

A remix would mean a total revamp like the late 90's T2 remix.

If they just narrowed down the field, that's not a remix, just a mastering adjustment.

(2026-11-07, 08:57 AM)Stamper Wrote: A remix would mean a total revamp like the late 90's T2 remix.

If they just narrowed down the field, that's not a remix, just a mastering adjustment.

Yep, the remixes happened very soon on home video when Rydstrom got bold.