projects sandbox

[nafroe]

Maybe it's just me (or my obscenely outdated computer), but I am unable to see the screenshots from the Se7en French DVD.

[spoRv]

Even if similar in a way to one, or another way to another, it is different indeed... may I say that I like that French DVD the best? Great find, Stamper!

[Stamper]

Color Match coming? LOL

[spoRv]

Color Match coming? LOL

Who knows?

[Chewtobacca]

Interesting find!  French releases can sometimes throw up surprises e.g. althor's interesting French LD set (of the OT).  As it happens, I was looking at that website the other day. Even though it's likely to be from an uncorrected scan (and I've never seen it), I quite like the look of the screenshots of the Italian BD.  Se7en is indeed a strange case.  I'm never completely sure which version to favor.

[Stamper]

So far my prefs goes to the original LD/NewLine DVD master, then french master though it's a little hot with clipped whites, it preserve the original hard contrast look, then the recent Blu-ray.

I think the french master maybe the real original look, as it's close to the Fincher corrected masters after, but with a harsher contrast.

The LD/NewLine is probably how the bleach bypass prints looked, whereas the french is how the non bleach prints looked. All the rest is revisionism trying to approximate the non bleach look.

[Stamper]

OK even crazier. Found for two bucks a Benelux Seven DVD from 2000. It says on the back that the english & French mix are 4.1. Could those be the theatrical unmolested mixes? Never saw any 4.1 mix of Seven before.

[PDB]

Nah, Seven would be natively mixed in 5.1 (DD and DTS). It was post digital sound in theaters

[Stamper]

Well get ready for a big surprise. This is the Criterion Laserdisc/New Line 4/3 DVD widescreen master only in anamorphic 16/9!



I checked LDDB, and the sound is a port of the Laserdisc too, as the box set was Dolby Surround. Both english and french tracks are unique Dolby Surround tracks at 192kbps.

"A new widescreen digital transfer created from a new super 35mm low contrast print supervised by director David Fincher, presented in the CAV format. New surround sound mix supervised by sound designer Ren Klyce, optimized for home theater listening"

HIAYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAA!!!! JACKPOT! BULLSEYEEEEEE!!!!!! THE RARE LOST CRITERION SEVEN DVD!!!

I remember at the time, it was custom to stick two masters, one 4/3 widescreen and the other anamorphic widescreen for later use. Since these were for laserdiscs and TV, anamorphic masters were not used, and because they were afraid to lose sales as VHS was dominating the market, those 4/3 were released on early DVDs instead of the the anamorphic ones. Corporate stupidity in the making. Moronic as you can moronic get!

However, many of these anamorphic widescreen masters appeared on early european DVDs, before remastering again and again from scratch became the norm.

This DVD is by Universal Pictures Benelux. It predates by a few months the remastered version from early 2001. Here's the sleeve: http://www.cinemapassion.com/jaquettesdvd/Seven-v2.php

[PDB]

Nice, is the whole thing windowboxed?