[Released] Harry Potter saga - open matte

[deleted user]

Why not get some 35mm trailers and do a regrade based on them? That would also fit nicely with the grain plate you're applying.

But in general I think it's not too bad. Gives a new perspective for sure. I like it more for the 5-8 parts than for the 1-4 parts tho.

[spoRv]

Following your feedbacks, I've changed the regrading to a more warm tone, and the contrast to a better one:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/128133 (only HP1 and HP8)

let's call it a "retouch", as the untouched ones have high levels very low (around 205-210, instead 235), so contrast is "compressed" too much IMHO.

Grain: I like it, but I'm aware nobody likes it; still think that improves the details, and is lost when the bitrate isn't high enough.

Take also in account that the new WEBdl available this very year are NOT the same I had access to (for some episodes); those had less than half bitrate... I guess that, using the new WEBdl files as sources would surely improve the quality.

For HP7, I'd use UHD BD for the cropped parts; it's always possible to do the same for all the other episodes, but, again, after I spent A LOT of time doing so with HP7, I'm not keen to redo the same for other 7 films!
But, if someone is fool enough to accomplish this task, I'm more than happy to use the directions to create appropriate cropping, using UHD BD for cropped shots. Or, I'm thinking about random.next's great plugin, but I have to play a bit with it.

[nightstalkerpoet]

I'm of the opinion you're better off changing the colors too much - they're too tied into the films. However, if you're set on it, I would attempt to match all films to the color of Goblet of Fire. It is the most vibrant of the later films, while still adding the slightly moody darker feel.

[nirbateman]

So I've had a gander through the 4K versions, and something is seriously off about Goblet of Fire.
Overall, the films look very good, great definition and all, and a definite improvement over the old BD's, but 2 scenes on Goblet seem incredibly washed out.

Take a look at this: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/129378

You can sort of make out Fudge's face, but you *cannot* make out the apparitions, it's way too bright.
Seems like the technology isn't there yet.

[deleted user]

So I've had a gander through the 4K versions, and something is seriously off about Goblet of Fire.
Overall, the films look very good, great definition and all, and a definite improvement over the old BD's, but 2 scenes on Goblet seem incredibly washed out.

Take a look at this: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/129378

You can sort of make out Fudge's face, but you *cannot* make out the apparitions, it's way too bright.
Seems like the technology isn't there yet.

Can you also post a raw HDR screenshot for comparison? That is, without the conversion to SDR?

[nirbateman]

Can you also post a raw HDR screenshot for comparison? That is, without the conversion to SDR?

Sorry, no, my monitor can't show HDR. However, I found this review that shows it's in the source:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/item/harry...ire-uhd-bd

"There is one problem with the HDR here, though, and it’s a big one: The film’s color timing is already so bright and washed out in a couple of scenes that, when the highlights are boosted on top of it, critical image detail is lost. You notice this at least twice in the film, first when the Minister of Magic is introducing the Quidditch World Cup (his facial detail is partially lost) and second when Harry sees familiar spirits in the cemetery near the film’s conclusion (again, you can barely make out their faces with HDR). It’s a shame. This is partly due to the lack of detail in the original DI, but it’s unfortunate nonetheless."

It appears to be just those scenes.

[Freddy]

So I've had a gander through the 4K versions, and something is seriously off about Goblet of Fire.
Overall, the films look very good, great definition and all, and a definite improvement over the old BD's, but 2 scenes on Goblet seem incredibly washed out.

Take a look at this: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/129378

You can sort of make out Fudge's face, but you *cannot* make out the apparitions, it's way too bright.
Seems like the technology isn't there yet.

If that's really how it looks on a HDR tv, then that's horrible. Can someone with such a modern tv please check and confirm or deny?...
And by the way, what's with the green/yellow tint in the cemetery scene?...

[Turisu]

If I turn the contrast wayyyy down on my TV then the detail in Fudge's face and the ghosts returns. I believe this is to do with the fact Warners master their UHDs with the top-end luminance at 4,000 nits. So if you have a TV with a super-bright backlight then you can drop down your contrast, pump up your backlight and everything will look great. But if you have a TV with a crappy backlight (like mine) then you have to choose a happy medium contrast level that doesn't blow out too much white detail nor make the overall image too dark to be enjoyable. Added to this is the problem that, if your TV doesn't go all the way up to a max luminance of 4,000nits then (unlike Dolby Vision) HDR10 does not provide the TV with any info as to how to correctly remap the levels. Each model of TV will do it differently.

As for the green in cemetary scene; I find it odd that many UHDs that I own (including all the HP films) have very different colours to the BD and yet their is little to no discussion that I can find as to whether these colours are more accurate to the original theatrical source or revisionism. I guess I should try and start one...

[nightstalkerpoet]

I've given up on HDR. When my $1000 Samsung looks like crap with UHDs (for the reasons you mention above), I'll stick with Blurays which look gorgeous on it. I've invested in an Xbox One S, since it allows you to turn off HDR and provides a better general viewing environment (while still offering 10-bit color).

[spoRv]

Tested an AAP-AR version of HP5; can say that almost (if not all) shots using BD + WEB works well, while BD + WEB + DVD works only in few shots.





BD vs AAP-AR using three sources: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/129931