2015-04-30, 02:46 AM
interesting stuff
here's part two of my earlier post, which actually addresses some of the audio issues:
This is a comparison between the 2006/2013 editions, which shows the f*ck up of the beginning (the intro credits issues) along with a few other things (at least they fixed the coloring of the shell to blue in the 2013 edition, LOL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXpk-YHH03o
THEN, there is the issue of the AUDIO!!! The audio on the VHS and FIRST DVD issue in 1998 (still by many regarded as a great 5.1 mix, even though slightly front heavy, that was "truest" to the original) was very decent and represented (at least to me with what I remember from the theater) the "original" audio. Then in 2006, for the second DVD, the Platinum edition, they came out with a new DEHT mix which was complete garbage. Now, ALL music vocals/dialog were panned across ALL front channels and the mix was greatly altered, changing many musical aspects of the movie. For the Diamond Edition release (bluray) they re-did the audio yet again to make a f*cking 7.1 mix out of it and it sounds like sh*t. Has a very metallic, crystal-y and VERY unnatural effect and they changed the emphasis of some of the sfx. There are two GREAT comparisons that I have found for this, also on youtube:
this one is of ariel's voice and urusla's laugh-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1SRYvgqn8Y
this one is of ariel's voice returning-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaGMDTbuCpw
As you can see, there is some debate about which video looks "best," and I'll see what results I can achieve. This will be a project I will be slowly working on, while I am working on a few other (some rather massive) projects. But there really should be NO debate about the audio; the bluray audio is highly inferior even though it's lossless. In fact, just to see how much the "experience" of the bluray can be "improved" I synced the 1998 audio to the bluray and it INSTANTLY helped. It's weird, because even though I only changed the audio, all of a sudden the video colors didn't bother me as much BUT the lack of grain still did. I just miss the "filmic" aspect which is probably due to all the times I saw it in the theater and hence why I like the HDTV copy so much.
here's part two of my earlier post, which actually addresses some of the audio issues:
This is a comparison between the 2006/2013 editions, which shows the f*ck up of the beginning (the intro credits issues) along with a few other things (at least they fixed the coloring of the shell to blue in the 2013 edition, LOL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXpk-YHH03o
THEN, there is the issue of the AUDIO!!! The audio on the VHS and FIRST DVD issue in 1998 (still by many regarded as a great 5.1 mix, even though slightly front heavy, that was "truest" to the original) was very decent and represented (at least to me with what I remember from the theater) the "original" audio. Then in 2006, for the second DVD, the Platinum edition, they came out with a new DEHT mix which was complete garbage. Now, ALL music vocals/dialog were panned across ALL front channels and the mix was greatly altered, changing many musical aspects of the movie. For the Diamond Edition release (bluray) they re-did the audio yet again to make a f*cking 7.1 mix out of it and it sounds like sh*t. Has a very metallic, crystal-y and VERY unnatural effect and they changed the emphasis of some of the sfx. There are two GREAT comparisons that I have found for this, also on youtube:
this one is of ariel's voice and urusla's laugh-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1SRYvgqn8Y
this one is of ariel's voice returning-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaGMDTbuCpw
As you can see, there is some debate about which video looks "best," and I'll see what results I can achieve. This will be a project I will be slowly working on, while I am working on a few other (some rather massive) projects. But there really should be NO debate about the audio; the bluray audio is highly inferior even though it's lossless. In fact, just to see how much the "experience" of the bluray can be "improved" I synced the 1998 audio to the bluray and it INSTANTLY helped. It's weird, because even though I only changed the audio, all of a sudden the video colors didn't bother me as much BUT the lack of grain still did. I just miss the "filmic" aspect which is probably due to all the times I saw it in the theater and hence why I like the HDTV copy so much.
