Apocalypse Now: Final Cut 40th Anniversary & Restoration

[The Aluminum Falcon]

@PDB appreciate the detailed breakdown!

[PDB]

@PDB appreciate the detailed breakdown!

NP

How's the audio compared to the various BD releases?

I don't think I did a one for one comparison for the audio. So maybe there is a space there.

[captainsolo]

The “theatrical” labeled track is seemingly the same 1997 ac3 5.1 Murch made for the LD ac3 reissue. It also was on the initial theatrical dvd release.
This track and the original 1991 LD ProLogic first attempt by Murch are the purist options.

[stwd4nder2]

The “theatrical” labeled track is seemingly the same 1997 ac3 5.1 Murch made for the LD ac3 reissue. It also was on the initial theatrical dvd release.
This track and the original 1991 LD ProLogic first attempt by Murch are the purist options.

Does the Eagle 4k release use this track, or is it a different, newer 5.1 mix?
If the DCP is the only source of a lossless version of the original audio restoration (assuming it actually is lossless) I'd be very interested in just the audio if someone could mux it and send it to me.

[The Aluminum Falcon]

Let me send you the audio track @stwd4nder2

[The Aluminum Falcon]

Just set to @stwd4nder2 I'll leave him to speak on what mix the DCP has...

For anyone interested, though, the new Blu-Ray and old Blu-ray do not sync to each other; there's about a 500ms difference by the end.

Also, the old Blu-Ray and the DCP do not sync out the box. One is 24fps, the other is 23.976fps.

[stwd4nder2]

A quick look at waveforms, the DCP mix is much more dynamic then the Atmos and the "original audio restoration" on the anniversary BD. The LFE is much louder then on any other mix I have to compare. I'd like to sync it to the 4k and do some listening comparisons in my theater setup.

Quick question, I know makemkv will sometimes drop frames when branching is used. Is this consistent across rips? I don't want to sync it to my rip only to have it fall out of sync with another one.

[The Aluminum Falcon]

@stwd4nder2 is this the same mix as the old BD or a different mix altogether?

[stwd4nder2]

I don't have the old BD.
If someone does, check the LFE. On the DCP, in the scene around the 40 min mark, Flight of the Valkyries is audible and easily identifiable on the isolated LFE channel. In the other mixes I have it's just regular, unintelligible LFE noise.

[Stamper]

Seamless is a can of worms. For example I tried to remux CEOT3K LD to the UHD and the sync goes off after 20mn.
I used the pipeline MakeMKV and that was probably the fault.
Maybe what you need to do is find all the m2ts of the theatrical, and then join them together with mkvtoolnix or tsmuxer, to get the exact content without the seamless drop outs. It's a hell of a work to sort them numbers out thought.