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[Cancelled] Ferris Bueller's Day Off - Open Matte
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Looking for guidance on how I can make my own open matte from two different WEB sources to remove the logos.

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Format version                           : Version 4
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Encoded date                             : UTC 2019-03-10 11:24:16
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Format profile                           : High@L4
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Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
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Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
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00:00:00.000                             : en:Studio Logo
00:00:14.000                             : en:Ferris' Parents Find Him Sick
00:03:14.000                             : en:Ferris Talks about His Philosophy
00:05:47.000                             : en:The Teacher Calls Roll
00:06:35.000                             : en:Ferris Calls Cameron
00:08:14.000                             : en:Mrs. Bueller Gets a Call from Rooney
00:10:43.000                             : en:The Teacher Gives a Lecture
00:11:57.000                             : en:Ferris Dances in His Room
00:12:08.000                             : en:Ferris Talks with Classmates
00:13:58.000                             : en:They Think He's a Righteous Dude
00:15:17.000                             : en:Ferris Gets a Call from his Dad
00:16:44.000                             : en:Cameron Considers His Options
00:17:41.000                             : en:Sloane Receives Bad News
00:19:00.000                             : en:Rooney Gets a Call From Mr. Peterson
00:25:54.000                             : en:Ferris Tries to Borrow a Car
00:28:32.000                             : en:Sloane is Picked Up
00:31:28.000                             : en:The Group Drives to the City
00:32:27.000                             : en:Donations are Collected to Help Ferris
00:32:55.000                             : en:Rooney Contacts Mr. Peterson Again
00:34:13.000                             : en:The Ferarri is Dropped Off
00:36:46.000                             : en:Mrs. Bueller Checks in On Ferris
00:38:29.000                             : en:The Group Visits the Sears Tower
00:39:22.000                             : en:Cameron Gives His Opinion on Marriage
00:40:28.000                             : en:The Group Has Lunch
00:44:17.000                             : en:Jeanie Thinks about Ferris
00:44:42.000                             : en:Ferris Discusses Cameron's Family
00:46:02.000                             : en:Jeanie Visits the Main Office
00:46:39.000                             : en:The Group Avoids Being Caught
00:47:33.000                             : en:Rooney Searches for Ferris
00:49:55.000                             : en:The Group Goes to a Baseball Game
00:50:54.000                             : en:Rooney Visits Ferris
00:56:06.000                             : en:The Group Visits an Art Museum
00:58:00.000                             : en:The Group Avoids Getting Caught Again
01:00:10.000                             : en:Rooney Attempts to Escape
01:00:28.000                             : en:Ferris Surprises Sloane and Cameron
01:05:36.000                             : en:Jeanie Investigates Where Ferris Is
01:08:33.000                             : en:The Group Picks the Car Up
01:09:43.000                             : en:Jeanie Calls for Help
01:11:19.000                             : en:Cameron Reacts to the Situation
01:12:30.000                             : en:Jeanie Gets a Visitor
01:13:04.000                             : en:Ferris and Sloane Talk about Cameron
01:14:47.000                             : en:Cameron Plays a Prank on Ferris
01:16:50.000                             : en:Jeanie Meets Someone
01:19:44.000                             : en:Cameron Has a Breakthrough
01:27:37.000                             : en:Mrs. Bueller Picks up Jeanie
01:29:24.000                             : en:Ferris Races Home
01:36:27.000                             : en:Ferris' Parents Check on Ferris
01:38:59.000                             : en:Rooney Gets a Ride, End Credits

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Complete name                            : V:\apps\downloads\Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986)\Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986) [Open Matte] StarzEncore.mp4
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Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (isom/mp42)
File size                                : 16.1 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 42 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 22.4 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-08-16 15:13:07
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-08-16 15:13:07

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Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L4.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 3 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
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Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
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Color space                              : YUV
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Source stream size                       : 16.0 GiB (99%)
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Stream size                              : 139 MiB (1%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-08-16 15:13:08
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-08-16 15:13:08

So firstly I guess I need to re-encode one source to match the others format and fps.
Then I'll need to mask one video over the other to remove most of the logo.
Then finally, as there will still be a bit of the StarzEncore logo showing, I'll need to remove it somehow.

This is where I need your expert help on what programs to use and how best to use them.

Thanks.
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I'm waiting one of local channels to show it again which always show it open matte with only a logo at top left, but typically they haven't shown it since the STARZ was available.

Also it censors a couple of bits so hoping they are not during when STARZ has it's intermittant logo.

Once this gets shown I will do my own logo free version.

All US versions I've seen including Freeform have a logo in the same place.
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There's a hybrid version out there now.

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Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986) HybridRip 1080p

For the source we thank TeamHD and maksnew for

explanations from the author of the source:
• Source video WEB-DL Amazon US Channel AMC +.
• The original video had duplicate frames, and some frames were also dropped.
• Removed duplicated frames resulting from incorrect changes in frame rate 23.976-> 24.
• Missing frames were taken from the STARZ source.
• For the Premier Multimedia track, thanks to pussen64.
• Track # 4 compiled from a clean voice.
• Open Matte version of the film, has a larger content of the frame compared to Blu-ray.
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That's my hybrid (with additional Russian soundtracks added), missing from TeamHD and maksnew's comments:

Replaced commercial fade outs of AMC + with STARZ source.

I removed 2 seconds of remaining STARZ logo (using mask and mixture of removing fade out, key frame movement and frame hold in Premiere) as it appeared during AMC + fade out (thankfully only time).

I also added some Super35 grain using Filmconvert in Premiere.

Frame matched to Blu-ray.
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(2021-03-21, 12:02 PM)X5gb Wrote: That's my hybrid

Many thanks then X5gb.
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(2021-03-21, 12:02 PM)X5gb Wrote: That's my hybrid (with additional Russian soundtracks added), missing from TeamHD and maksnew's comments:

Replaced commercial fade outs of AMC + with STARZ source.

I removed 2 seconds of remaining STARZ logo (using mask and mixture of removing fade out, key frame movement and frame hold in Premiere) as it appeared during AMC + fade out (thankfully only time).

I also added some Super35 grain using Filmconvert in Premiere.

Frame matched to Blu-ray.

Very cool X5gb. Need to track that down.
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PDB, I also tried out your YAO subs on it from your Top Gun project but unlike that, FBDO’s 2.39:1 ratio version isn't always centered in the middle and head’s etc were getting cut off in certain scenes so had to abandon that idea. My original version also had custom DTS-HD MA 5.1 (from True-HD 5.1), the laserdisc 2.0 track from here along with the rare John Hughes commentary from original Region 1 dvd release.
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(2021-03-21, 05:38 PM)X5gb Wrote: PDB, I also tried out your YAO subs on it from your Top Gun project but unlike that, FBDO’s 2.39:1 ratio version isn't always centered in the middle and head’s etc were getting cut off in certain scenes so had to abandon that idea. My original version also had custom DTS-HD MA 5.1 (from True-HD 5.1), the laserdisc 2.0 track from here along with the rare John Hughes commentary from original Region 1 dvd release.

Yeah I find that true of a few 16:9 open mattes. It works on TG and Skyfall since both are mostly top and bottom crops. But things I have tried like Fight Club and Abyss it works less since those are reframed per shot like I'm sure FB is.

Also credit where credit is due the YAO subs are spoRv's creation
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