Terminator 2: Judgement Day - 35th Anniversary Re-Release

[BobbyMishima]

This trailer uses an old Blu-ray as source. Is it legit? It's also very badly edited.

And trailer also uses few clips of the horrible 2017 4k-upscale.

[dvdmike]

If I want to have an official release of this film (which is in my top 10 favorites by the way), which is grainy and has the original theatrical colors, the best is still the 2015 US blu-ray, right?

The 2015 isn't the original colour at all, we have print scans we know this.

[tanch28]

If I want to have an official release of this film (which is in my top 10 favorites by the way), which is grainy and has the original theatrical colors, the best is still the 2015 US blu-ray, right?

The 2015 isn't the original colour at all, we have print scans we know this.

I have the 1993 Special Edition Laserdisc. All the releases from LDs to 2015 Blu-ray have a consistent look. The 2017 remaster introduced revisionist colour grading.

[dvdmike]

If I want to have an official release of this film (which is in my top 10 favorites by the way), which is grainy and has the original theatrical colors, the best is still the 2015 US blu-ray, right?

The 2015 isn't the original colour at all, we have print scans we know this.

I have the 1993 Special Edition Laserdisc. All the releases from LDs to 2015 Blu-ray have a consistent look. The 2017 remaster introduced revisionist colour grading.

I have nearly every LD the first LD Squeeze release if a print scan, that's correct as are the film scans that exist.
The home releases have never been correct on the whole.
For the 1993 releases onwards they neutralised the lighting fully.

[Stamper]

yeah the Squeeze LD is an answer print, not the final version, that makes it valuable but it's not the original movie.

Beber I think I have the Columbia DVD it's basically the R1 early DVD master in Pal format with some extra logos before.

[Beber]

Beber I think I have the Columbia DVD it's basically the R1 early DVD master in Pal format with some extra logos before.

I don’t know how the early R1 DVD looks like either. I guess I'll buy a second-hand copy of the Tri Star R2 DVD.

Can you guys imagine, if Sony had kept the rights on this title, and the senile Canadian ex-filmmaker not being involved, how a 4K remaster would have turned out from Sony Pictures? What a shitty world this is when we're deprived of a transfer on par with "Starship Troopers", "The Mask of Zorro", "In the Line of Fire", "Groundhog Day", "Lawrence of Arabia", "Black Hawk Down", etc.!

[MrBrown]

As far, as I remember, all the known DVDs from the pre StudioCanal era used the same image master, and besides the german VCL DVD, all looked very similar.

Even the strange mastered first japanese DVD, with the movie files split in half, as if they mastered it from a two sided LaserDisc. Both halfs of the movie were on the same side of the DVD.

The TriStar DVD from Finland/Norway/Sweden/Denmark is the same disc, as the french TriStar DVD, containing french Audio, and the four nordic subtitles.

The only exceptions for the "first release DVD" rule are the German VCL DVD, that might use a different scan, and also had some coloring differences (I think the german Company just had the color grading set to "too warm"), and the russian Pioneer Panasonic DVD, that had a 1.33:1 aspect ratio image.


Edit: The russian DVD was from Panasonic, not Pioneer. By Pioneer were the releases in Japan.

Above scene fromt he russian DVD:

[dvdmike]

yeah the Squeeze LD is an answer print, not the final version, that makes it valuable but it's not the original movie.

Beber I think I have the Columbia DVD it's basically the R1 early DVD master in Pal format with some extra logos before.

That's it, I knew it was somewhere in the chain and made the haters prefer the second release

[MrBrown]

Whatever they did on the German DVD:



I think they failed some settings...

[izzybell]

I think it's really funny how the original color grade has virtually never been widely available on home media. To this day I still see people claim the 2015 BD has the original grade. Thank god for the 4K 35mm scan.