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Welll, since they did release a blu-ray with both cuts, maybe they have the rights for a UHD release too. We'll see.
Or, for short, what Titanic just said. Is Arrow supposed to make their own edition or is it just wishful thinking?
@velocity It is an issue when the theatrical cut isn't available in the same latest format. Anyway, I hope Arrow will fix that.
Oh, yes, it IS a replacement. No original untouched theatrical cut included just like the 2014 Criterion Blu-ray. We're deprived from the original historical film. Nobody cares about HIS vision HE wants to enforce. A film is a group effort and part of (pop) culture history. It morally and ethically belongs to us. Nobody has mandate to go back in time and change the past. Mann is amongst the worst revisionists anyway among Lucas, Cameron, Scott, Spielberg, Cundey, Fujimoto, Storaro... Those guys owe us their careers and fortunes, and they take a number two on all of us. There never was a proper "Heat" home video release (terrible non-colors), there's now 3 cuts for "The Last of the Mohicans" and only 2 on Blu-ray with the latest ruined colorwise. There's now 3 cuts for "Ali", and only 2 on Blu-ray in different regions. There's at least 3 cuts for "Manhunter" and only one looks decent, at least it's the theatrical one. "The Insider" was ruined colorwise on Blu-ray while the DVD and old TV broadcastings had the proper colors... Theatrical cuts, looks and mixes are the real deal. Anything else should only be considered as a bonus. The sad part is the industry wants almost universally to impose the new version. You can't even buy "Blade Runner" on its own nowadays. The standalone edition is The Final Cut. It's also the one shown on streaming and TV now, falsely labelled as being a 1982 film... with Atmos and CGI implemented!
It's still the director's vision, even if it's the vision he had decades later. More than you can say about any open matte
Nothing wrong with that. It's a new director's cut, no one's saying it's a replacement for the theatrical. I don't see why someone would take an issue with that, it's honest and not pretending to be anything else
It's strange to read in a fan restoration forum, the news of the tealed-to-death director's cut of THIEF released, considered awesome!
The Social Network is also on its way in a standalone release, out of the Columbia boxset.
That finally took under 19 years to get on Blu (and UHD at the same time) for the first time ever. Blu is referring to the debut since 2006. But being a Fincher film, who knows if this is worth the wait despite being a Sony film (Fincher is not involved in The Social Network 4K)
Apparently The Brutalist is shot in Vistavision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdRXPAHIEW4. Very cool to see this format getting a modern revival
the corporate will sell you dreck and won't even blink https://twitter.com/rarefilmm/status/186...0413061487
The master made for the Criterion LD of Se7en is probably the closest home release to the original theatrical release prints, although Fincher tweaked it even then. Every subsequent release has been revised further
Looks like the new se7en colour grade is closer to the original LD which is a nice change of pace, some reframing and regrading but this films never had any colour changes that were too radical. Interested in seeing what they've digitally tampered with for this one, some people are throwing AIccusatations
You can see grain on Pitt's hand here (from the trailer, zoom in) https://i.imgur.com/EIVUKzr.png
As long it not AI upscale nor DNR mess like the Cameron 4K "restorations", this can be regradable. But who knows by the actual release day
I feel like the Se7en UHD will be a double whammy for many people after the Cameron UHDs. They may never recover
That trailer of "Seven" looks about the same colorwise as the widely released Blu-ray. I wonder if it was edited using it or if the new master will look about the same...
meanwhile, Fincher continues to "tweak" Se7en... https://www.fangoria.com/david-finchers-se7en-4k/
These deserved to be rescanned without Cameron, Lowry nor Park Road Post involvements. Especially with the latter destroyed Jackson's Middle-earth saga with DNR usage (both Theatrical and Extended Cuts)
And of course, the revisionist (like T2 and Titanic (1997) digitally altered CGIs): https://fanrestore.com/thread-4865-post-...l#pid91964
Yeah it's completely AI nuked. Someone posted pix on social media, where the posters in the store at the beginning, ads for brands, are redrawn and now the brand names are mispelled.
seems as if schnittberichte.com (english movie-censorship.com) had to fill in with some more comparison shots, just to make the censored frames not feeling so lonely in Showdown in Little Tokyo https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=581572
Anyone seen The Terminator 4K Blu-ray yet? If yes, any thoughts on the quality?
Thansk for the heads up, Bilbofett. Roger flew under the radar for so many years. He used to be easily accessible online from the late 90s to the late 00s or thereabouts. Loved to chat with fans on his own forum.
@Bilbofett Roger and Quentin are pretty chatty on their Video Archives podcast
Roger Avary (Pulp Fiction/Silent Hill/Rules of Attraction) discussing film, home video, art on WHATEVER podcast live w/ chat https://www.youtube.com/live/q0KddpwzQzo
That's fine, but expected for a "Cameronvism" release. The MGM "Hi-Def" source (used in the 2001 DVD & 2006 BD releases) kinda sucks, despite the master different from the 1995 LD release which are the intended way to watch it for the picture quality alone. It did get the closest color grading, but the loss of detail kills it for the MGM "Hi-Def" master
I see... so sorry for pestering, but what makes LD better than 2006? Which seemingly did not get that treatment, and still has better quality than a LD could
I rather have a crunchy LD video (1995) than how neither Cameron nor Lowry does it for this film. So I'm good
And doesn't seem to have any signs of being sourced from the old master, looks like a new scan
2006 BD is the old master, the 2013 BD is the Aliens approach (Lowry and Cameron by DNRing the master before adding fake grain) and the umatic is the source of the 2013 BD release (fake grain) with the theatrical grading. Aside for the 35mm fan scanned ones (if you don't mind cue markers), only the LD video (the 1995 THX release for picture) + 1991 Image audio hybrid is the closest for the best on home video in general with natural colors without needing to regrade the entire film
Is there any reason to prefer LD video over any of the other options (2006 bluray, 2013 bluray, umatic regrade)?
All that gives is someone syncing the 1995 Image Entertainment LaserDisc [ID2940NSB] image (Domesday Duplicator) with the 1991 Image Entertainment LaserDisc [ID8316HD] audio. The latter is suggested by Blah-ray alone: https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/search/lab...%281984%29
I am not that shocked, but yeah: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p...count=9272 It is disgusting that is not worth the LD audio sync alone
anyone knows if LDRIP of On the Waterfront exists anywhere? Trying to find better audio to mux with UHD release. (https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/2020/03/on...-1954.html)
But it is my fault, that they are released so late: I just bought the spanish bootlegs few weeks ago, because I was tired of waiting for regular german releases...
I think some of them, or even all of them, might be first time german BD releases of these steven Seagal movies. I assume, we just get the regular master, no new master, or they would announce it big time.
January 16th, 2025 Plaion will release a Steven Seagal BD Boxset containing: Hard to Kill, Out for Justice, On Deadly Ground, The Glimmer Man, Fire Down Below
Sadly for dub viewing non americans the unrated version of NoES is just on english with subtitles... Even if it is spliced via seamless branching...
New scan of my The Beach trailer by Dejonge Film (Belgium). Much, much cleaner and sharper. Overall condition isn't good though https://i.ibb.co/BBNDHXy/Standbild-2024-...-1-1-1.jpg
The uncut parts are definitely analog and not digital for what CiNEPHiLES saying
From the CiNEPHiLES release: Uncut edition of this film adds only 9 seconds of extra footage with no dialogue, as such I didn't think it was worth remuxing the theatrical version. Subtitles and commentaries (which were only included on disc with the theatrical edition) have been adjusted to sync. The 2.0 track included on the UHD is thankfully the original mono, and it sounds great. It appears to be a lossless version of the mastering included on the previous disc. A few seconds of the uncut footage seem to be spliced from a lower quality source, but it's not noticable.
There's only 9 seconds of extra footage in the uncut version. According to Blah-ray previous disc sounded good already, so if UHD is worse, that could be synced with the uncut moments spliced in
A good capture from a VHS of the uncut version would do the job as well, if the 4K release has a tempered mono mix
Misread as the music cue is missing (it does appear in that 4K release). Despite that, an LD audio sync with the Japanese uncut version of the film (as the only NTSC LD release contains an Unrated cut) is worth doing regardless: https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/33382/SF0...m-Street-A
I just got confirmation: A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) is now fully uncut on 4K (Disc & Streaming). Though the mono mix seams to be only available on disc
just wanted to say thatGonna talk to them tomorrow. Can't imagine that this is the "final" resolution of the trailer. And compression aint good, too :-(
don't insult super8 like that! did you have a talk with them? minus the very obvious issues with the files you received it looks like a good scanner - https://ibb.co/Byqt4xd (super8 4k)
Just got the scan of my "the beach" trailer. Its a 4k wetscan and looks like super8 footage....damn :-(
tried without the UPS? also maybe try from laptop without power adapter plugged in to confirm theres no ground loop
Any OG Cap artists know wtf this noise interference is? I've got everything through AVR Sinewave UPS (for dirty power).. LD or VHS, changed rooms, cap cards, between laptop/desktop, turned all powered devices off.. its all the same. What the hell is doing this? https://i.imgur.com/GhuzE93.jpeg
And the best one overall is the 1995 LD release for both picture and sound quality. Before and after are not that great (between the first LD release in 1985 and 1991 release on the former; 1997 DVD on the latter for inferior of the same mono audio master as the 1995 LD release)
I don't expect anything decent coming from Cameron anymore. Pictured AI'd and degrained and no mono mix. And he's vocal about it
No mono was a given, it's upscaled in 4K just like all the others. Putting the mono in there just doesn't fit, it's a thing now for fanrestore.
probably dnr'ed to death since it's a very grainy movie and cameron doesn't like grain. not holding my breath. every older cameron movie on 4k was a let down
The Terminator was announced on 4K BD from Warner Home Video WITHOUT the original mono https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=35154
Maybe someone have an Amazon AMC+ subscription and can check this title
Disc 3: The Chronicles of Riddick 4K (Theatrical Cut in alternate 1.78:1 aspect ratio)
