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The Terminator (1984) DEFINITIVE REGRADE + Laserdisc Mono/Dolby Atmos |
Posted by: uhdfan93 - 2025-01-18, 05:52 PM - Forum: Released
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The Terminator '84
Greetings!
I’ve been working on a T1 regrade this past year. It was supposed to be released before the 4K UHD came out but the project got put on hold due to personal health issues. The new 4K isn’t the worst thing in the world like I was expecting (it ain't no True Lies) but it still has many problems. The mono audio included also unfortunately isn’t the greatest and neither is the old 5.1.
I highly recommended watching Damn Fool Idealistic Crusader’s YouTube review of the 4K for a purist’s perspective and his video on the history of the home video releases of the film. That being said I believe the best source is still the ‘13/15 Blu-ray imo.
There have been a few regrades posted here throughout the years but I wanted to go in depth a little bit more, and also wanted to make sure the encoding and bitrate/file size matched the Blu-ray for maximum quality. I ripped the transfer from the disc and made sure to export/transcode appropriately after color correcting. Special thanks to kk650 for inspiring this project with his past releases.
This transfer is ripped from the 2015 MGM Blu-ray (which is the same as the 2013 release). I used the 2006 MGM Blu-ray, 1997 Image DVD and some 35mm stills I found online for references, although my intention was NOT to match them exactly. My goal was to make the color grade look overall more natural but with a resemblance of past releases. I also wanted to make sure to keep the exposure levels the same as BD source so there would be no black crush or overexposure. I tried my best to shift the color tones only. It is not 100% perfect but it is also incredibly difficult to make minute (extremely small) adjustments within DaVinci Resolve without going too far one way or the other. I went back and forth on hundreds of different variations of color grades until I finally settled on one that I felt looked the most balanced.
https://imgur.com/On26Nff
Since this comparison above shows there's been so many different looking color grades across the home video history of the film, I found it appropriate to just fine tune to my personal preference. I may continue doing improvements and updates, and further adjust certain scenes if enough people are interested. But for now I think it's time to release this little bastard, I've been working on it for too long.
![[Image: mpv-shot0017.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/vmq3gNmq/mpv-shot0017.jpg)
https://imgur.com/kbTEbmP
Special thanks to Stamper for providing the 1991 laserdisc domestic mono mix. It is included here for purists as an uncompressed PCM.
There was a 2.1 mix created by kk650, lazyzod and dmuk which combined a laserdisc mono with the .1 LFE of the 5.1 track, using Sony Vegas for encoding. I decided to recreate one myself using DTS-Master Audio Encoder to ensure the best quality. I took the 2.0 mono and encoded it with the .1 LFE of the 5.1. I also attached the Orion logo intro to the beginning, as that is absent from the laserdisc mono (21 secs). This will be the default track on this release as I believe this is the definitive mono experience.
The two main 5.1 tracks, the international mono mix from the 2001 MGM SE DVD, as well as the new Dolby Atmos track have been added for a complete audio experience. All tracks are precisely synced to the 2015 US Blu-ray release. All tracks except for the laserdisc tracks were ripped by me straight from the source.
I do not make compressed versions. This will be a full size release only.
MEDIA INFO:
VIDEO:
AVC/H.264
33.0 Mb/s, 1920*1080, at 23.976 FPS, (High@L4.1 / 4 Ref Frames), 24.7 GiB
source: 2015 MGM Remastered Blu-ray
AUDIO:
ENG Dolby Atmos TrueHD
(3,075-4,752 kb/s 24 bits 48.0 kHz, 2.30 GiB)
source: 2024 Warner Bros. 4K UHD Blu-ray
ENG DTS-HD Master Audio 2.1 Mono + LFE (default)
(2,169 kb/s 24 bits 48.0 kHz, 1.62 GiB)
source: 1991 LaserDisc/2015 Blu-ray - created by uhdfan93
ENG DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 Surround
(4,119 kb/s 24 bits 48.0 kHz, 3.08 GiB)
source: 2015 MGM Remastered Blu-ray
ENG PCM 5.1 Surround EX
(4,608 kb/s 16 bits 48.0 kHz, 3.45 GiB)
source: 2006 MGM Blu-ray
ENG PCM 2.0 Mono (original 1.0 also included)
(1,441.2 kb/s 16 bits 44.1 kHz, 1.06 GiB)
source: 1991 Image LaserDisc - captured by Stamper
ENG Dolby Digital 2.0 Mono (International Mix)
(192 kb/s 48.0 kHz, 147 MiB)
source: 2001 MGM Special Edition DVD
*Subtitles also included
Total size: 37.0 GiB
*NOTE: I recommend NOT using VLC player if watching on a PC. For some reason a couple of the audio tracks sound compressed and muffled on VLC. Not sure why, not sure if it’s only my version. I recommend using MPV Player.
Special thanks to Kreep for valuable feedback.
PM for link!
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Hello there! |
Posted by: chadrtc - 2025-01-16, 03:05 PM - Forum: Presentation
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Hi all,
I'm new here, but excited to become a part of this community.
All the best!
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Born to Defend (中華英雄)-1986 Jet Li-directed film |
Posted by: The Film Whisperer - 2025-01-16, 05:43 AM - Forum: Released
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Do you like my work? Donations are appreciated (check the links in my bio and signature)
Do you want to know about more of my work? Check the link in my bio/signature (the links are to this website only, describing the projects. Obviously you must PM me)
I've been holding back on this project for a while now, but at this point, I don't think any better sources will become available any time soon.
About the film
This movie is known by three different titles
- Born to Defense
- Born to Defence
- Born to Defend
Yes, those first two titles actually exist and I can confirm there are sources with each spelling.  Thankfully, my reconstruction uses the third (and grammatically correct) title.
This 1986 film is the first and only movie Jet Li ever directed. And it's a shame that he hasn't directed anything ever since, because I actually think this movie showed he can be a great director, even if the movie itself isn't a masterpiece.
Anyways, the plot
After fighting against the Japanese in World War II, "Xiao Jie" ( Jet Li...and that's the last time I'm pretending his character has a name ) goes back home to Qingdao, only to find that it's not the home he once knew. The town now heavily caters to utterly rapacious American soldiers, as orphaned children sell themselves on the street, and many Chinese women prostitute themselves ( that last one isn't so bad actually, eh?  ). One day, Jet Li decides that he has had enough of bullying from the American soldiers. He accepts a challenge to fight one of the soldiers: Bailey ( played by Paulo Tocha). Although he struggles, Jet defeats him in a boxing match. However, the conflict between the Chinese townspeople and the American soldiers escalate, as Bailey wants revenge for his humiliating defeat. The conflict escalates further when the tall Captain Hans ( played by Kurt Roland Peterson) intervenes, hoping to break Jet's spirit (and that of the Chinese). The escalating tit-for-tat conflict eventually leads to destructive and tragic results between Jet, his friends, and the American soldiers.
The fight scenes in this movie are based on real physics. None of that typical "wire-fu" stuff you see in Jet Li's films. And they are VERY well choreographed! Jet Li is in his prime and top shape in this movie. And it's all well-directed too. This is probably the youngest I've ever seen Jet Li in a film.
The Miramax Version
This martial arts film is another one of those films that Saint Harvey Weinstein (via Miramax) got his hands on back in the day. He created a new dub and made a 5.1 mix. However, at least the Miramax dub keeps the original score and sound effects, but Jet Li's voice is unrealistically deep  !
The cuts by Miramax weren't too extensive. I've found that Miramax never butchered Jet Li's films as much as they butchered Jackie Chan's! If you're curious to know more about the cuts and changes, just read this Movie-Censorship article. But I can summarize.
- Miramax created a new opening credits sequence using some WWII-inspired artwork (albeit blurry and abstract). The original version of the movie just had a black background with bi-lingual Chinese/English credits
- They also added some ACTUAL scrolling end credits (in English only) on the last shot's freeze frame. Some sources of the uncut version just linger on the freeze-frame for 10 seconds, then cuts to a bi-lingual title card saying "The End". The DVD I used for my reconstruction (more on that later) lingered on the final freeze frame for about a whole minute!
- Cut out a shot of a prostitute's boobies
(but the film still ended up being rated-R anyways with no theatrical release! WTF?!)
- Shortened a scene where Jet Li donates blood for extra cash.
- Deleted a shot of Jet Li peeling a blister from his foot.
- Various scenes involving urine (I think Jet might have a fetish, but who am I to judge
)
How did I make the reconstruction?
I found a 720p version of the Miramax cut by "Bluebird" online, although I think it was an upscale of the Dragon Dynasty DVD. Then I found a British R2 DVD (which I think was actually scanned from this VHS) which was uncut and in the OAR.
The British DVD's picture isn't great. It's dark and lacks color. Color-correcting it to match the Miramax Version was difficult. However, compared to the Miramax version, it has much more information in each frame. A LOT MORE (see slide #2 in this link for comparison). Also, there are burnt-in English subtitles. In many cases those subs are within the matte, but other times they creep into the frame. Hence why I used a 4:3 pan & scan bootleg version to cover up those subtitles in two different shots (see the explanation slides link). In once instance I had to FRAME-BY-FRAME rotoscoping to cover those subs!
The British DVD version also used the title card which read "Born to Defend" instead of "Defense" or Defence". I recreated the opening credits from scratch with iMovie, but I used that title card from the DVD in my reconstruction. I used Miramax's end credits, because just lingering on that freeze frame for 90 seconds is awkward!
Specs
File size: 11 GB
Format: MKV
Frame rate: 23.978 fps
Audio- 2.0 LPCM (stereo), Cantonese, Hong Kong laserdisc (excellent quality)**
- 2.0 LPCM (mono), English export dub (from R4 Australian DVD).
- 2.0 LPCM (stereo), Miramax dub with export dub filling in certain parts.
**Disclaimer about my customized Cantonese track**
Before Jet Li's first fight with Captain Hans, he and the Captain exchange words, with the club-owner translating. Captain Hans tells Jet
that if he won't fight him, he must "tuck his tail between his legs and get out." Jet responds by saying "We are Chinese, not dogs!" ('dog' is a big insult many Asian cultures ).
In the original Cantonese track, the club owner (who is supposed to be translating) responds by just yelling "We are Chinese!" then the Captain responds by saying "So prove it."
I felt like this exchange was a bit awkward. So for that part of the conversation, I took the bar owner's voice from the Mandarin dub, in which he properly translates Jet's words as "Us Chinese are not dogs", albeit in a much different (and monotonous) voice!
Subtitles- English for Cantonese track
- English for English dubs (signs and text only)
I included the subtitles I made (an SRT) in a separate file, in case anyone would like to improve the translations. My subs rely mostly on Dragon Dynasty's translation, but also a little bit from the British DVD.
Anything else included?
I converted the R2 DVD into 24fps and speed (not the HD frame rate), if you're curious to check it out and compare it to the Miramax Version.
Does anyone have a decent quality version of the Mandarin dub? Every source I've managed to get of the Mandarin dub is really bad quality! Also, I think statistically-speaking, at around this time (1945-ish), the people of Qingdao were speaking Mandarin instead of Cantonese .
Does anyone have the Dragon Dynasty DVD?
Anyways, ENJOY! Tell me what you think!
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HELLO! |
Posted by: gso15 - 2025-01-16, 01:58 AM - Forum: Presentation
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new here pleasure meeting you all!
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Hi |
Posted by: EvanEggsNBacon - 2025-01-15, 05:26 AM - Forum: Presentation
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Hello, I'm here to check out some of these LD audio syncs, seeing as I don't have the equiptment to do that myself, this is a good place to find that sort of thing, cheers.
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Hello all! |
Posted by: Ewokzilla - 2025-01-13, 08:17 AM - Forum: Presentation
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Greetings everyone!
I think what’s being done here is great and I’m highly interested. I’ve been collecting physical media for about 25 years. I have a Plex server to easily browse and watch my collection. I have demuxed/remuxed a single movie in the past for myself to have the best video/audio combo(Nothing But Trouble’s blu ray audio… good lord). I’ve been a tinkerer and fixer of electronics and computers since the mid 90s. Lately i’ve been trying to learn to solder(modifying retro game consoles mainly). I’m starting to gain interest in DTS Laserdisc tracks mixed with 4K/blu-ray video. I’m here to browse, learn, and contribute if I’m able to. Not much else to say except keep up the great work!
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