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Apple Logic Pro can now create Dolby Atmos mixes at no extra costs
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Information  2021-10-20, 04:11 PM
On Monday Apple dropped Logic Pro 10.7 and it included a major feature: Create Dolby Atmos mixes.

For pros and hobbiest this is huge, as the feature comes at no extra costs. If you know how to mix a 5.1 mix, then moving to Dolby Atmos wont be hard. You can mix up to 7.1.4. Though I couldn't find an option to export to Dolby TrueHD. At this point you export to something that works with Apple Music and probably Apple TV. But it might be also a lossless version that you need the official Dolby Encoder for. Only time will tell if you can go full fledged movie mixes in Dolby Atmos. I don't see a reason why you shouldn't Wink

Regardless, this is pretty awesome news Smile
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2021-10-20, 04:29 PM
Does Atmos on apple music use E-AC-3 or some proprietary format? If there's no way to properly export it to something that can by muxed with video, it's nice but ultimately useless.
I wonder if this is some limitation imposed by Dolby specifically so you can't use it for mixing movies.
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2021-10-20, 04:45 PM
Indeed; if you can't export to TrueHD, or at very least Dolby Digital Plus (even if the latter is not the best option), there is little use for "us"! Wink
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2021-10-20, 05:06 PM
Is that the consumer or cinema version of Atmos?
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2021-10-20, 06:10 PM
(2021-10-20, 05:06 PM)TomArrow Wrote: Is that the consumer or cinema version of Atmos?

Definitely consumer since you can only do 7.1.4

(2021-10-20, 04:29 PM)stwd4nder2 Wrote: Does Atmos on apple music use E-AC-3 or some proprietary format? If there's no way to properly export it to something that can by muxed with video, it's nice but ultimately useless.
I wonder if this is some limitation imposed by Dolby specifically so you can't use it for mixing movies.

The exported audio is .wav

Here is the info from mediainfo

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Duration                                 : 8 s 192 ms
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2021-10-20, 06:13 PM
So it's just static mixes? No moving objects or anything?
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2021-10-20, 06:31 PM
Problem is, what to do with 11ch (or 12) WAV file?
Dunno if there are some players that can accept it; even if so, you do need a 11 (12) channel compatible audio card...

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2021-10-20, 07:11 PM
(2021-10-20, 06:13 PM)stwd4nder2 Wrote: So it's just static mixes? No moving objects or anything?

No. This is real Dolby Atmos.

(2021-10-20, 06:31 PM)spoRv Wrote: Problem is, what to do with 11ch (or 12) WAV file?
Dunno if there are some players that can accept it; even if so, you do need a 11 (12) channel compatible audio card...

More investigations are needed! Smile

Dolby Atmos as PCM is usable with the Apple TV box. I don't have one, so I can't test how you can use it.
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2021-10-20, 09:21 PM
Also, check out this link. It gives some interesting infos about the new Atmos process Smile
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