Apple Logic Pro can now create Dolby Atmos mixes at no extra costs

[bendermac]

On Monday Apple dropped Logic Pro 10.7 and it included a major feature: Create Dolby Atmos mixes.

For pros and hobbiest this is huge, as the feature comes at no extra costs. If you know how to mix a 5.1 mix, then moving to Dolby Atmos wont be hard. You can mix up to 7.1.4. Though I couldn't find an option to export to Dolby TrueHD. At this point you export to something that works with Apple Music and probably Apple TV. But it might be also a lossless version that you need the official Dolby Encoder for. Only time will tell if you can go full fledged movie mixes in Dolby Atmos. I don't see a reason why you shouldn't

Regardless, this is pretty awesome news

[stwd4nder2]

Does Atmos on apple music use E-AC-3 or some proprietary format? If there's no way to properly export it to something that can by muxed with video, it's nice but ultimately useless.
I wonder if this is some limitation imposed by Dolby specifically so you can't use it for mixing movies.

[spoRv]

Indeed; if you can't export to TrueHD, or at very least Dolby Digital Plus (even if the latter is not the best option), there is little use for "us"!

[deleted user]

Is that the consumer or cinema version of Atmos?

[bendermac]

Is that the consumer or cinema version of Atmos?

Definitely consumer since you can only do 7.1.4

Does Atmos on apple music use E-AC-3 or some proprietary format? If there's no way to properly export it to something that can by muxed with video, it's nice but ultimately useless.
I wonder if this is some limitation imposed by Dolby specifically so you can't use it for mixing movies.

The exported audio is .wav

Here is the info from mediainfo

Code:

General Complete name : /Users/user/Desktop/atmos-test.wav Format : Wave File size : 12.4 MiB Duration : 8 s 192 ms Overall bit rate mode : Constant Overall bit rate : 12.7 Mb/s Audio Format : PCM Format settings : Little / Signed Codec ID : 1 Duration : 8 s 192 ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 12.7 Mb/s Channel(s) : 11 channels Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Bit depth : 24 bits Stream size : 12.4 MiB (100%) Metadata format : ADM, Version 0 Metadata muxing mode : axml ADM profile : Dolby Atmos Master, Version 1 Number of programmes : 1 Number of Contents : 1 Number of objects : 2 Number of pack formats : 2 Number of channel formats : 11 Number of track UIDs : 11 NumberOfTrackFormats : 11 NumberOfStreamFormats : 11 Programme #1 : Atmos_Master ID : APR_1001 Title : Atmos_Master Start : 01:00:00.00000 End : 01:00:08.19200 Content #s : 1 Content #1 : Atmos_Master_Content ID : ACO_1001 Title : Atmos_Master_Content Mode : Mixed Object #s : 1 + 2 Object #1 : Master ID : AO_1001 Title : Master Duration : 00:00:08.19200 Pack format #s : 1 Track UID #s : 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 10 Object #2 : Audio 1 ID : AO_100B Title : Audio 1 Duration : 00:00:08.19200 Pack format #s : 2 Track UID #s : 11 PackFormat #1 : Master ID : AP_00011001 Title : Master TypeDefinition : DirectSpeakers Channel layout : L R C LFE Lss Rss Lb Rb Tsl Tsr Channel format #s : 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 10 PackFormat #2 : Audio 1 ID : AP_00031002 Title : Audio 1 TypeDefinition : Objects Channel format #s : 11 ChannelFormat #1 : RoomCentricLeft ID : AC_00011001 Title : RoomCentricLeft TypeDefinition : DirectSpeakers Channel layout : L Type : Static ChannelFormat #2 : RoomCentricRight ID : AC_00011002 Title : RoomCentricRight TypeDefinition : DirectSpeakers Channel layout : R Type : Static ChannelFormat #3 : RoomCentricCenter ID : AC_00011003 Title : RoomCentricCenter TypeDefinition : DirectSpeakers Channel layout : C Type : Static ChannelFormat #4 : RoomCentricLFE ID : AC_00011004 Title : RoomCentricLFE TypeDefinition : DirectSpeakers Channel layout : LFE Type : Static ChannelFormat #5 : RoomCentricLeftSideSurround ID : AC_00011005 Title : RoomCentricLeftSideSurround TypeDefinition : DirectSpeakers Channel layout : Lss Type : Static ChannelFormat #6 : RoomCentricRightSideSurround ID : AC_00011006 Title : RoomCentricRightSideSurround TypeDefinition : DirectSpeakers Channel layout : Rss Type : Static ChannelFormat #7 : RoomCentricLeftRearSurround ID : AC_00011007 Title : RoomCentricLeftRearSurround TypeDefinition : DirectSpeakers Channel layout : Lb Type : Static ChannelFormat #8 : RoomCentricRightRearSurround ID : AC_00011008 Title : RoomCentricRightRearSurround TypeDefinition : DirectSpeakers Channel layout : Rb Type : Static ChannelFormat #9 : RoomCentricLeftTopSurround ID : AC_00011009 Title : RoomCentricLeftTopSurround TypeDefinition : DirectSpeakers Channel layout : Tsl Type : Static ChannelFormat #10 : RoomCentricRightTopSurround ID : AC_0001100a Title : RoomCentricRightTopSurround TypeDefinition : DirectSpeakers Channel layout : Tsr Type : Static ChannelFormat #11 : Audio 1 ID : AC_0003100b Title : Audio 1 TypeDefinition : Objects TrackUID #1 : ATU_00000001 ID : ATU_00000001 Bit depth : 24 Sampling rate : 48000 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 1 TrackUID #2 : ATU_00000002 ID : ATU_00000002 Bit depth : 24 Sampling rate : 48000 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 2 TrackUID #3 : ATU_00000003 ID : ATU_00000003 Bit depth : 24 Sampling rate : 48000 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 3 TrackUID #4 : ATU_00000004 ID : ATU_00000004 Bit depth : 24 Sampling rate : 48000 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 4 TrackUID #5 : ATU_00000005 ID : ATU_00000005 Bit depth : 24 Sampling rate : 48000 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 5 TrackUID #6 : ATU_00000006 ID : ATU_00000006 Bit depth : 24 Sampling rate : 48000 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 6 TrackUID #7 : ATU_00000007 ID : ATU_00000007 Bit depth : 24 Sampling rate : 48000 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 7 TrackUID #8 : ATU_00000008 ID : ATU_00000008 Bit depth : 24 Sampling rate : 48000 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 8 TrackUID #9 : ATU_00000009 ID : ATU_00000009 Bit depth : 24 Sampling rate : 48000 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 9 TrackUID #10 : ATU_0000000A ID : ATU_0000000A Bit depth : 24 Sampling rate : 48000 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 10 TrackUID #11 : ATU_0000000B ID : ATU_0000000B Bit depth : 24 Sampling rate : 48000 Pack format #s : 2 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 11 TrackFormat #1 : PCM_RoomCentricLeft ID : AT_00011001_01 Title : PCM_RoomCentricLeft FormatDefinition : PCM LinkedTo_StreamFormat_Pos : 1 TrackFormat #2 : PCM_RoomCentricRight ID : AT_00011002_01 Title : PCM_RoomCentricRight FormatDefinition : PCM LinkedTo_StreamFormat_Pos : 2 TrackFormat #3 : PCM_RoomCentricCenter ID : AT_00011003_01 Title : PCM_RoomCentricCenter FormatDefinition : PCM LinkedTo_StreamFormat_Pos : 3 TrackFormat #4 : PCM_RoomCentricLFE ID : AT_00011004_01 Title : PCM_RoomCentricLFE FormatDefinition : PCM LinkedTo_StreamFormat_Pos : 4 TrackFormat #5 : PCM_RoomCentricLeftSideSurround ID : AT_00011005_01 Title : PCM_RoomCentricLeftSideSurround FormatDefinition : PCM LinkedTo_StreamFormat_Pos : 5 TrackFormat #6 : PCM_RoomCentricRightSideSurround ID : AT_00011006_01 Title : PCM_RoomCentricRightSideSurround FormatDefinition : PCM LinkedTo_StreamFormat_Pos : 6 TrackFormat #7 : PCM_RoomCentricLeftRearSurround ID : AT_00011007_01 Title : PCM_RoomCentricLeftRearSurround FormatDefinition : PCM LinkedTo_StreamFormat_Pos : 7 TrackFormat #8 : PCM_RoomCentricRightRearSurround ID : AT_00011008_01 Title : PCM_RoomCentricRightRearSurround FormatDefinition : PCM LinkedTo_StreamFormat_Pos : 8 TrackFormat #9 : PCM_RoomCentricLeftTopSurround ID : AT_00011009_01 Title : PCM_RoomCentricLeftTopSurround FormatDefinition : PCM LinkedTo_StreamFormat_Pos : 9 TrackFormat #10 : PCM_RoomCentricRightTopSurround ID : AT_0001100a_01 Title : PCM_RoomCentricRightTopSurround FormatDefinition : PCM LinkedTo_StreamFormat_Pos : 10 TrackFormat #11 : PCM_Audio 1 ID : AT_0003100b_01 Title : PCM_Audio 1 FormatDefinition : PCM LinkedTo_StreamFormat_Pos : 11 StreamFormat #1 : PCM_RoomCentricLeft ID : AS_00011001 Title : PCM_RoomCentricLeft Format : PCM Channel format #s : 1 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 1 StreamFormat #2 : PCM_RoomCentricRight ID : AS_00011002 Title : PCM_RoomCentricRight Format : PCM Channel format #s : 2 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 2 StreamFormat #3 : PCM_RoomCentricCenter ID : AS_00011003 Title : PCM_RoomCentricCenter Format : PCM Channel format #s : 3 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 3 StreamFormat #4 : PCM_RoomCentricLFE ID : AS_00011004 Title : PCM_RoomCentricLFE Format : PCM Channel format #s : 4 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 4 StreamFormat #5 : PCM_RoomCentricLeftSideSurround ID : AS_00011005 Title : PCM_RoomCentricLeftSideSurround Format : PCM Channel format #s : 5 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 5 StreamFormat #6 : PCM_RoomCentricRightSideSurround ID : AS_00011006 Title : PCM_RoomCentricRightSideSurround Format : PCM Channel format #s : 6 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 6 StreamFormat #7 : PCM_RoomCentricLeftRearSurround ID : AS_00011007 Title : PCM_RoomCentricLeftRearSurround Format : PCM Channel format #s : 7 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 7 StreamFormat #8 : PCM_RoomCentricRightRearSurround ID : AS_00011008 Title : PCM_RoomCentricRightRearSurround Format : PCM Channel format #s : 8 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 8 StreamFormat #9 : PCM_RoomCentricLeftTopSurround ID : AS_00011009 Title : PCM_RoomCentricLeftTopSurround Format : PCM Channel format #s : 9 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 9 StreamFormat #10 : PCM_RoomCentricRightTopSurround ID : AS_0001100a Title : PCM_RoomCentricRightTopSurround Format : PCM Channel format #s : 10 Pack format #s : 1 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 10 StreamFormat #11 : PCM_Audio 1 ID : AS_0003100b Title : PCM_Audio 1 Format : PCM Channel format #s : 11 Pack format #s : 2 LinkedTo_TrackFormat_Pos : 11

[stwd4nder2]

So it's just static mixes? No moving objects or anything?

[spoRv]

Problem is, what to do with 11ch (or 12) WAV file?
Dunno if there are some players that can accept it; even if so, you do need a 11 (12) channel compatible audio card...

More investigations are needed!

[bendermac]

So it's just static mixes? No moving objects or anything?

No. This is real Dolby Atmos.

Problem is, what to do with 11ch (or 12) WAV file?
Dunno if there are some players that can accept it; even if so, you do need a 11 (12) channel compatible audio card...

More investigations are needed!

Dolby Atmos as PCM is usable with the Apple TV box. I don't have one, so I can't test how you can use it.

[bendermac]

Also, check out this link. It gives some interesting infos about the new Atmos process