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OK so the U.K. disc is a colour, framing and geometry match for the Italian release. In effect they are identical, but it's a different encode. Still some combing and shimmering in the U.K. release, I'm going to try a few different players and check the settings.
I am fairly certain however that the master is different between the US and UK releases. The change in colour is quite noticeable, the geometry is slightly different and so is the framing.
Bit rushed today, I'll be more thorough with screencaps this evening as per your suggestions, but here's a quick example:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/212530
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Well, it reflects what we see in the caps-a-holic screenshot comparison of four different versions.
We have basically two main color gradings (SE and non-SE), with two variations between US and non-US versions; I wonder which grading is using the BD - US or non-US? Also, I can't remember which colors have the laserdisc, but I'm pretty sure they are pretty similar - if not identical - to its US DVD counterpart.
Now, which source use as reference? Can't say if one is more "theatrical accurate" than the other, but, limited to what I see on that 4-version comparison, I like US a bit more for colors - even if it's leaning towards green is some shots, colors are more different from the SE than the non-SE DE...
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Added a poll in the first post; let's see what other members think about this.
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2017-06-12, 08:49 PM
(This post was last modified: 2017-06-12, 08:56 PM by markymark.)
Ah, so the combing is there in the DE DVD release also, it's not just UK and ITA (check the smoke in comparison 11 and the bottom left of the frame in comparison 12 on SD-caps-a-holic). So the PAL non-SE colour and framing is just different from NTSC.
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The slight difference between NTSC and PAL may result in the different technical aspects.
Seeing some of the different sd comparisons at caps-a-holic having often that the NTSC Video seems to be a bit greenish, while the PAl sometimes are more to the red. Even if it is just slightly, it is noticable in a direct comparison.
Maybe the "truth" is somewhere in the middle.
To speak so: I like the non-SE grading, with the slightly PAL tune... lesser green
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Different aspect ratios/dimensions: it's not directly correlated to PAL and NTSC - I've made so many comparisons, and often the difference between PAL and NTSC, due to different formats, are in few pixels (two or three) at most.
Colors: it could also be due to different/wrong color matrix used (601/709)...
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Even the CE Remaster of Event Horizon have that slight color difference. The NTSC have the slight more green tune.
I would Thayer it might be more a thing in the difference of the color matrices.
Yeah the framing and aspect ratio difference has some other reason.
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I'd be interested to know which colour scheme the LD has. In the absence of any kind of reference or clue as to the theatrical colours, I'm tempted to say just leave the BD colours as they are. They don't look too bad to me.
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(2017-06-14, 01:18 PM)Turisu Wrote: I'd be interested to know which colour scheme the LD has. In the absence of any kind of reference or clue as to the theatrical colours, I'm tempted to say just leave the BD colours as they are. They don't look too bad to me.
The non-se US DVD is the same master as the LD
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