"Se7en" color timing

[kiyoakiwah]

I'm a little confused on the source for the theatrical mix.  It states Dolby Digital but I thought all home AC3 mixes were remixes, even if they were gentle ones.  I've done the cinema DTS but they make no mention of that there.

i sent a message to croweyes asking him about what he used for the audio but no reply yet, i assume it's laserdisc as the only other original mixes are on vhs and the lazydisc dvd

se7en has had dialouge changed/obfuscated/revealed for the remastered dvds, and then it's different from the dvds on the blurays aswell. hard to say all the exact differences since it's not very well documented online but there's a few mentions of it here and there, but that's what i ment with the theatrical part

[zoidberg]

It's probably more accurate to describe the LD mix for Se7en as a near-field mix, where the spread and dynamic range have been adjusted but the overall channel content remains untouched, however I do not know the film well enough to know if this is the case here.

Whereas the 6.1EX/ES mixes for the Platinum DVD are a new mix with changes to effects placement and (I think) new/different sound effects in certain places. Both home mixes (Criterion/New Line Platnum) were supervised by Ren Klyce

[borisanddoris]

It's probably more accurate to describe the LD mix for Se7en as a near-field mix, where the spread and dynamic range have been adjusted but the overall channel content remains untouched, however I do not know the film well enough to know if this is the case here.

Whereas the 6.1EX/ES mixes for the Platinum DVD are a new mix with changes to effects placement and (I think) new/different sound effects in certain places. Both home mixes (Criterion/New Line Platnum) were supervised by Ren Klyce

That seems spot on.  The LD mixes all sound pretty good albeit I've not heard the DTS pressing.  The cinema DTS is definitely a bit more powerful though.  It's a wonderful mix.

[kiyoakiwah]

i sent a message to croweyes asking him about what he used for the audio but no reply yet, i assume it's laserdisc as the only other original mixes are on vhs and the laserdisc port dvd

so it's from the original dvd. interesting

[dvdmike]

https://youtu.be/KPOuJGkpblk?si=iFfgupmtSQp_Gzjv

[borisanddoris]

https://youtu.be/KPOuJGkpblk?si=iFfgupmtSQp_Gzjv

Hot take:

It looks…a bit too clean. It doesn’t feel gritty. Call me skeptical but I won’t judge a YouTube preview.

[kiyoakiwah]

https://youtu.be/KPOuJGkpblk?si=iFfgupmtSQp_Gzjv

Hot take:

It looks…a bit too clean. It doesn’t feel gritty. Call me skeptical but I won’t judge a YouTube preview.

some times it looks clean, sometimes it seems like there's grain - youtube compression will destroy any resemblance of detail even at 4k so i'm waiting on the BD

[borisanddoris]

It wasn't even the grain question...the color timing and contrast just don't feel right. The Criterion LD is my gold standard and given the nature of its production, it feels a lot closer to what the show prints may have looked like. This feels like it's building on the old BD. The old BD was fine but definitely re-imagined from a visual perspective.