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My hybrid open matte releases
#61
Hello:

new to this project that you have put together, came across some of your uploads in the *Bluebird* forum & I dl'ed one of them.

I'm intrigued by this process but if you don't mind me asking....do not both the original Bluray disc video & the web sourced video have to be 1080p high def?

If one of the two is not as sharp & detailed as the other won't that softer video image dull the clarity of the overlaid final product?
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#62
I don't fully understand what do you mean.
The aim of hybrid is to enchace low quality source by high quality overlay video as much as possible without visible borders between sources.
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#63
If I have well understood DOHC6, he meant that, using two sources where one has a very lower quality than the other, the hybrid version would have visible "slices" of different quality; in this case, there are various techniques that aim to match the quality of both sources as much as possible, but of course all depends from the sources... I don't think it will be possible to put together an UHD-BD and a VCD, and get the latter "slices" to be the same quality of the former! Big Grin

Still, overlaying BD on top of good quality WEB and/or HDTV, the result is always superior to plain WEB or HDTV, and the difference between them is difficult, if not impossible, to notice; also, do note that, usually, merging two or more sources lead to a better version than single source.
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#64
(2018-01-28, 08:15 PM)spoRv Wrote: If I have well understood DOHC6, he meant that, using two sources where one has a very lower quality than the other, the hybrid version would have visible "slices" of different quality; in this case, there are various techniques that aim to match the quality of both sources as much as possible, but of course all depends from the sources... I don't think it will be possible to put together an UHD-BD and a VCD, and get the latter "slices" to be the same quality of the former! Big Grin

Still, overlaying BD on top of good quality WEB and/or HDTV, the result is always superior to plain WEB or HDTV, and the difference between them is difficult, if not impossible, to notice; also, do note that, usually, merging two or more sources lead to a better version than single source.


That's what I was getting at........if the two sources are of different video clarity (Bluray vs a web source that is SD).......which of the two will visibly be the primary finished product? The Bluray is obviously a 2:35/1 (matted) whereas the web is 1:78/1 SD (unmatted).

My thought was that everywhere that there is no Bluray video there would be a noticeable change in the videos sharpness. How does one sharpen up the SD video from the web source?
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#65
Well, when we talk about WEB here, we mean 1080p - and only really rarely 720p; never dealt with WEB SD! So, here the difference in quality between BD and WEB (HDTV) passes most of the time unnoticed, unless you put them in direct comparison, frame by frame, and zooming in.

I can tell you that, even using SDTV (720x576), with the right techniques (denoising, sharpening, high quality upscaling, grain etc.), when combined with the BD, the difference between sources is not that noticeable in motion.
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#66
random.next, stiil looking forward to your Casino release. In the mean time here is a couple of ideas for future projects I'd love for you to tackle with your specialist skills:

Silverado (1985) - Open Matte hdtv overlaid with Bluray.

Godzilla (1998) - Open Matte hdtv overlaid with Bluray

Over the Top (1987) - US Bluray which has wider framing on both left and right sides but is slightly filtered overlaid with German Bluray which has better grain retention, encoding, color timing and is less filtered.

Ferris Buellers Day Off (1986) - Open Matte hdtv overlaid with Bluray, I have a personal open matte cap from ITV HD (only problem is it's censored in some scenes and of course missing a few frames at commercial breaks) which could be used to remove logo from available released ones and vice versa.
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#67
I'm not interested in these movies, sorry  Smile
Casino project is suspended at this moment. Still waiting for new open matte sources.
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#68
(2018-01-31, 07:32 PM)random.next Wrote: I'm not interested in these movies, sorry  Smile
Casino project is suspended at this moment. Still waiting for new open matte sources.

No probs, just some ideas, thanks for replying. Regards, Casino, doubt there will be any new sources in the near future, everyone now seems to show OAR. I'll keep a look out on ITV showing it but from what I remember it was always OAR there. The sample you posted seemed very good considering the quality of the open matte source, any chance of a link to the full experimental version (as you did with T2) just so I can sample the present state (I assume with logo artifacts), would be much appreciated, if not, no worries.
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#69
Gladiator (2000) 10th Anniversary Open Matte Edition 
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#70
Very nice, random.next. Another one of yours I'll be adding to my personal collection. Does it include the extended scenes, if not, any chance of a hybrid with 2.35:1 inserts for those scenes.
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