DTS soundtracks on laserdisc and not on DVD or BD?

[spoRv]

LAST UPDATE: 2018-04-20

I’d like to know which title of the following list

has not a DVD and/or BD edition with a DTS soundtrack
OR
where the DTS soundtrack is present, the DVD/BD edition is different from theatrical presentation but the laserdisc is the same
OR
the DTS soundtrack is half bitrate (768kbps) - where laserdisc are 1441kbps - or the quality is not that good
OR
simply, there is no DVD or BD edition at all!

This to determine which title could be eligible for a DTS soundtrack restoration, using the laserdisc DTS soundtrack and the best video available (BD or, if not available, DVD or, if there is no digital edition at all, the laserdisc video).

So, here you are a list of NTSC USA laserdiscs with DTS Digital Surround soundtrack:

1. … 12 Monkeys (1995) 43208
   
2. … Alien Resurrection (1997) 0032584
   
3. … Apollo 13 (1995) 43119 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
   
4. … Armageddon (1998) 16066 AS -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
   
5. … Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery: Special Edition (1997) ID4402LI -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
   
6. … Babe (1995) 43209 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
   
7. … Blade (1998) ID5423LI -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
   
8. … Blown Away (1994) ML106171
   
9. … Boogie Nights (1997) ID4415LI
   
10. … Born on the Fourth of July (1989) *** ID4482MC -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
11. … Broken Arrow (1996) 0896384
    
12. … Carlito’s Way (1993) ID4425MC
    
13. … Casino (1995) 43117 -> The BD is DTS 5.1 but likely a new mix.
    
14. … Casper (1995) 43120
    
15. … Con Air (1997) 12881 AS
    
16. … Crimson Tide (1995) 12156 AS
    
17. … Crow, The (1994) 12157 AS
    
18. … Dante’s Peak (1997) 43364 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
19. … Dark City (1998) ID4643LI -> theatrical was reissued as a bonus to the Director’s cut and not in DTS.
    
20. … Daylight (1996) 43271 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
21. … Deep Rising (1998) 15066 AS
    
22. … Die Hard (1988) *** 0890584 -> original sound mix altered for all 5.1 remixes.
    
23. … Die Hard 2: Die Harder (1990) *** 0890684 -> original sound mix altered for all 5.1 remixes.
    
24. … Die Hard 3: With A Vengeance (1995) 0885884 -> New BD audio very strong but not as detailed as a 1995 film should be, suspect a remix and not theatrical. -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
25. … Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story (1993) ID4426MC
    
26. … Dragonheart (1996) 43207 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
27. … Eagles: Hell Freezes Over (1994) ID4065GF -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
28. … English Patient, The (1996) 12356 AS
    
29. … Eric Clapton: Unplugged (1992) ID4747WO
    
30. … Evita (1996) §§§ 12096 AS -> original theatrical sound was Dolby Digital.
    
31. … Firestorm (1997) 0277384
    
32. … Flubber (1997) 14687 AS
    
33. … Frighteners, The (1996) 43274
    
34. … From Dusk Till Dawn (1996) 12160 AS
    
35. … Game, The (1997) ID4386PG
    
36. … Gate to the Mind’s Eye, The (1994) ID4068MM
    
37. … Get Shorty (1995) ML107093
    
38. … Getaway, The (1994) ID4471MC
    
39. … Goldeneye: Special Edition (1995) ML105987 -> 2006 BD loses it’s thunderous bass and LFE.
    
40. … Good Will Hunting (1997) 15112 AS
    
41. … Great Expectations (1998) 0449284
    
42. … Halloween: H20 (1998) 16070 AS
    
43. … Happy Gilmore (1996) ID4423MC
    
44. … Hard Target (1993) 43276
    
45. … Heart and Souls (1993) ID4483MC
    
46. … Hercules (1997) 15067 AS -> This Disney films all get 7.1 remixes nowadays, so the laserdisc DTS soundtrack is the original.
    
47. … Hoodlum (1997) ML107094
    
48. … Hunchback of Notre Dame, The (1996) 12354 AS -> This Disney films all get 7.1 remixes nowadays, so the laserdisc DTS soundtrack is the original.
    
49. … In the Mouth of Madness: Special Edition (1994) ID3751LI -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
50. … In the Name of the Father (1993) ID4484MC
    
51. … Independence Day: ID4 (1996) 0411884
    
52. … Jackal, The (1997) ID4424MC -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
53. … Jackie Brown (1997) 15065 AS -> BD mix is DTS 5.1 but may be sweetened as Tarantino likes to tweak his films for video.
    
54. … Jackie Chan’s First Strike (1996) ID4713LI -> American dubbed and re-cut version.
    
55. … Jurassic Park (1993) 43115
    
56. … Kingpin (1996) ML107092
    
57. … Kull the Conqueror (1997) ID4422MC
    
58. … Last Man Standing (1996) ID3735LI
    
59. … Liar Liar (1997) 43365 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
60. … Long Kiss Goodnight, The (1996) ID3738LI
    
61. … Lost in Space (1998) ID4712LI
    
62. … Lost World, The: Jurassic Park (1997) 43366
    
63. … Man in the Iron Mask, The: Special Edition (1998) ML107203
    
64. … Mask, The (1994) ID3752LI
    
65. … Mimic (1997) 14343 AS
    
66. … Mortal Kombat: Annihilation (1997) ID4421LI
    
67. … Mortal Kombat: Special Edition (1995) ID3753LI -> The audio on the Mortal Kombat BD is weak compared to the DTS LD. There was also a commentary track never carried over to DVD or Blu.
    
68. … Most Wanted (1997) ID4716LI
    
69. … Mr. Holland’s Opus (1995) 12161 AS
    
70. … Mr. Nice Guy (1997) ID4715LI
    
71. … Mulholland Falls (1996) ML107089
    
72. … Nightmare Before Christmas, The (1993) 12162 AS
    
73. … Nutty Professor, The (1996) 43272 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
74. … Phenomenon (1996) 12159 AS
    
75. … Pocahontas (1995) 12158 AS -> This Disney films all get 7.1 remixes nowadays, so the laserdisc DTS soundtrack is the original.
    
76. … Pulp Fiction (1994) 12154 AS
    
77. … Quest, The (1996) 43367
    
78. … Red Corner (1997) ML107096
    
79. … River Wild, The (1994) 43275 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
80. … Rob Roy (1995) ML107090
    
81. … Rock, The (1996) 12155 AS
    
82. … Ronin: Special Edition (1998) ML107602 -> BD uses LD DTS bitrate so it may be the same track.
    
83. … Rush Hour (1998) ID5477LI
    
84. … Schindler’s List (1993) 43277
    
85. … Scream 2 (1997) 14607 AS
    
86. … Scream: Director’s Edition (1996) 14797 AS
    
87. … Seven (1995) ID3750LI
    
88. … Shadow, The (1994) 43116 -> The German BD has LD DTS bitrate so it may be the same and theatrical; there was an early DVD of The Shadow with a DTS track, fullscreen unfortunately.
    
89. … Shine (1996) ID3957LI
    
90. … Six Days Seven Nights (1998) 16069 AS
    
91. … Spawn: The Movie: Special Edition (1997) ID4236LI
    
92. … Species (1995) ML105760
    
93. … Speed (1994) 0896784
    
94. … Stargate: Deluxe Edition (1994) LD 60231-DTS -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
    
95. … Strange Days (1995) 0893984
    
96. … Street Fighter (1994) 43368
    
97. … Sudden Death (1995) 43210
    
98. … Super Speedway: IMAX (1997) ID4717OW
    
99. … Timecop (1994) 43211
    
100. … Tina Turner: Live in Amsterdam (1996) ID4019ER
     
101. … Titanic (1997) LV334812-WSDTS
     
102. … Tomorrow Never Dies (1997) ML107148 -> 2006 BD loses the surround clarity and in it’s unbelievable discrete effects.
     
103. … Toy Story (1995) 12153 AS -> LD original mix, Blu-ray has a DTS-ES 6.1 remix
     
104. … True Lies (1994) 0864084
     
105. … Vertigo (1958) *** 43212 -> is the bad 5.1 remix with horridly intrusive new foley work. The new BD mix is supposedly a new and more faithful mix. The film is best in original mono.
     
106. … Village of the Damned (1995) 43278
     
107. … Volcano (1997) 0603984
     
108. … Wag the Dog (1997) ID4646LI
     
109. … Waterworld (1995) 43118 -> DVD has full bitrate DTS track
     
110. … Wedding Singer, The (1998) ID4686LI
     
111. … West Side Story (1961) ML107088 -> LD is a transfer of the original 70mm six-track audio mix
     
112. … X-Files: The Movie (1998) 0044884
     

*** the movie’s soundtrack was not originally recorded in a multi-channel, digital audio format; these laserdiscs’ DTS soundtracks have been created by re-mastering the film’s original analog soundtrack
§§§ the movie’s soundtrack was originally recorded in a multi-channel digital audio format other than DTS Digital Surround
–> notes about DVD/BD DTS soundtrack (THANKS TO THE MEMBERS WHO POSTED HERE!)

TITLES IN BOLD - movies I own
STRIKEDTHROUGH - movies that doesn’t deserve a DTS soundtrack restoration for one of this reasons:
(DVD) DVD available with a DTS soundtrack better than the laserdisc edition
(BD) Blu-Ray available with a DTS soundtrack better than the laserdisc edition
(BD/DVD) Both DVD and Blu-Ray have better DTS soundtrack than laserdisc

Note: altough I strikedthrough some titles, this doesn't mean necessarily that DTS track on DVD is better than LD; it could have a different mix, or worst quality, as many DTS tracks on LD were 18-bit, while only 16-bit on DVD. So, any info on each of these title will be highly appreciated!

[Jetrell Fo]

Thanks Andrea, this is most appreciated.

[OogieBoogie]

Have to ask this, is there a site that stores these LD audio or is that something youjust move between yourselves per requirement, because I would love to have some of those, mainly because I'm not certain if I have ever heard them that way before. I'm not much use for most of this project stuff but I can keep stuff seeded.

[spoRv]

I had once an half idea to put up some sort of "DTS laserdisc project", to preserve all DTS laserdisc (I got 100 IIRC, only few missing from the complete list); thought to set up a crowdfunding company to get the remained titles, then capture all of them (of course bit-perfect), and put them in sync with the best release around - tipically BD, or DVD if any title is not available on BD.

Also, a general "laserdisc preservation project" would be useful... so many tracks which sound better than DVD or BD, or have different mix, or better compression, without talking never released commentaries, different color grading (needed for color reference); few also with different cut, or missing altogether in digital form (Ransom extended edition, for example, along with many old concerts).

Dunno if it's feasible, though...

[Jetrell Fo]

Have to ask this, is there a site that stores these LD audio or is that something you just move between yourselves per requirement, because I would love to have some of those, mainly because I'm not certain if I have ever heard them that way before. I'm not much use for most of this project stuff but I can keep stuff seeded.

There is no site that "stores" this LD audio. The LD's have to be purchased and ripped accordingly. If you purchase the ones you'd like we do have folks that would probably rip them for you as long as you pay the shipping both ways and ask nicely. If members were "moving stuff between themselves per requirement", especially for project assets, it would not be disclosed or referenced publicly for any reason.

I hope that answers your questions.

[spaceboy710]

I just captured Hunchback of Notre Dame, The (1996) 12354 AS in bit-perfect DTS.

If anybody wants to sync it, let me know.

[BDgeek]

That's great news alinskey!!!

I've never watched this Disney film, but it would be great to do so with LD audio.

BTW, since I noticed you're US based, I'm trying to secure some LDs, for example Tremors Siganture LD to PDB's project, and if you're able to capture the audio on these beauties, I could gift you some sets.

If you're interested, reach me by PM and we'll sort it out.

[pipefan413]

I just captured Hunchback of Notre Dame, The (1996) 12354 AS in bit-perfect DTS.

If anybody wants to sync it, let me know.

I missed that you'd done this one and I've got a copy on the way. Bugger! I'm interested to compare the LD DTS to the very first DVD DTS.

I have a couple of related ones en route and am capturing one of them now...