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Matrix Resurrections
#21
looking forward to this a bunch

but mostly, I've already been having fun discussing the original three films with people in the context of this trailer bringing back all sorts of discussions about the original three films':

- the balance between story, theme, and ideas.... and the way the sequels couldn't balance them the way the original movie did
- development/production and the differences in the way the first movie was made compared to the sequels
- disappointment with how the sequels turned out despite genuine appreciation for the big swing the Wachowskis made by turning the sequels into a transmedia event (movies, shorts, video games, etc)
- the usual "are they in another matrix????" questions (a theory that I find narratively/thematically redundant)

I've long kept myself out of the "trailer dissection" game that people online have gone exhaustively cuckoo about over the past decade, but this takes me back to those days back in 2003 when I was watching trailers over and over again to 'crack' the eventual movie.  It's fun to get into it again for this... and I don't even care if I'm right or wrong about any details.

(reserved seating in theaters allows me to arrive late in order to avoid sitting through 20-25 minutes of loud marketing)

In the context of the way the trilogy ended, I think John Toll's more sun-drenched digital cinematography for RESURRECTIONS actually suits what a modern Matrix movie would look like today. I dig the fact that it looks/feels very different from the original films.   And its artificial look reminds me of the final sunrise that ended MATRIX REVOLUTIONS.  To me, it doesn't feel like a cheap Netflix thing... although I can see why someone would say that.

As for the suggestion that Joel Silver was always the real comic book/HK action/anime fan that guided the Wachowskis' tastes.... now, that's a take I've never heard.  hahahahah
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(2021-09-12, 02:30 AM)TomArrow Wrote: Hot Fuzz!

I thought the exact same thing when I saw that image
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(2021-09-13, 10:21 AM)Doctor M Wrote: @Stamper - Any idea what Joel Silver's participation was in "Speed Racer".  I just rewatched that this weekend and realize that it has held up well and the FX are top tier.

according to Wikipedia:

- in September 1992, Warner Bros announced that it held the option to make a live-action adaptation
- it was in development at Joel Silver's SILVER PICTURES
- during the 90s, it went through various writers, actors, and directors without ever getting made
- in September 2000, producer Lauren Shuler Donner was hiring the director for it.  Not sure if this means that Joel Silver was no longer involved.
- and in October 2006, the Wachowskis were attached to it, with Joel Silver producing
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(2021-09-11, 06:13 AM)Doctor M Wrote: The Matrix has been rebooted after the events of the third film (both the franchise and the simulation) so the color grading may be final.

in terms of the history of the look of the Matrix movies, perhaps "there is no final color grade" hehehehe

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(2021-09-11, 06:13 AM)Doctor M Wrote: My understanding is that Lily is having psychological issues following her transition so decided not to work on the movie.  Make of that what you will, but I wonder if she saw the script and wanted nothing to do with it.


From a panel Lana Wachowski spoke on with Tom Tykwer and David Mitchell:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtLbghso0Zc

Someone on reddit summarized what was discussed in the panel:

https://www.reddit.com/r/matrix/comments...&context=3

Quote:Lana said that, since Revolutions, WB would ask her and Lilly every year to make a new film, and offer a lot of money to do so.

One night, after lots of sleepless crying, a new Matrix story idea emerged to Lana. Neo and Trinity coming back to life, and it comforted her (amongst the real-world death afflicting her life at the time, such as her parents), and the story evolved from there. Lilly wanted to process her grief differently, but Lana's Matrix idea kept evolving.
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That's the same interview with Lilly I was referring to.
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Oh really? But I don’t recall Lana saying anything about her sister not working on the sequel due to psychological issues around her transition.
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Maybe the writer of the article I read that quoted that interview took liberties. Dunno.
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#28
Going to go into this as blind as possible. If I catch a trailer at the cinema beforehand then I'll watch it obviously but everything else I will try to avoid.

All I will say is if this film gives me even a fraction of the pure joy in my heart I got from watching Reloaded then I will be happy
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#29
Watched it. Complete trash imo. Worse than 2&3.
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@TomArrow agree that it's worse than 2. Need to rewatch 3.
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