[Canceled] Terminator 2 (Theatrical Cut) (35 Project #4)

[MrBrown]

Thank you very much sir

No problem.

Worked the Download now? Somewhere I read that it is not the Ultimate Edition reedited Version, but A cinematic Edit. But I didn't find any evidence or proof.

[PDB]

Yes sir, seems to work fine. I appreciate you uploading it for me.

[marin888]

Little bit off topic, but maybe...

Reason why T1 Blu-Ray looks greenish.

Posted 2012
Running into an old 35mm film clip in our archives, we realised it didn't match with the currently available DVD and Blu-ray transfert.
So we decided to check with, who else, the man who edited the film himself.

We knew the source was a genuine french (european), original 35mm theater release film print from 1985.

More info:
http://www.hdvision-mag.com/2012/03/was-...rmats.html

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[TServo2049]

No. This was a French print in some private collection.

I have no idea why that print looks the way it does. I always thought most/all prints of T1 were printed on low-fade stock, either Kodak LPP or Agfa. (I've seen film strips on eBay UK that say "AGFA GEVAERT" and don't show any signs of fading.) By 1984, I think all major film producers had phased out the older fade-prone stocks and were exclusively manufacturing low-fade. Other than this, I have not been made aware of any prints of any movies after 1983 that are faded. Maybe there are some out there, but everything I've personally seen (or seen photos of, either projected or of the actual film itself) from '83 onward, has no real color loss.

The only time I've personally seen a piece of low-fade stock that was visibly faded, was a strip of IMAX film that was on display at a science museum, that was sitting opposite a window and had been exposed to sunlight for several years.

Maybe other people can weigh in on those images?

[jerryshadoe]

I don't know... That "Matrix green" color is weird to see for T1

Could the film had been stored somewhere near some chemicals that would cause that discoloration without warping the film? Are there such things as "custom" reprints, where the collector made a copy of a print and re-timed it to this green? (that might be a stretch, but I'm at a loss for this funky green)

[PDB]

Ok picking back up from here:

https://fanrestore.com/thread-1202-post-...l#pid24030

I have about 90% of the film graded with some refinement left to do. Here is what it currently looks like (Warning lots of pics):

BD/Regrade




So soundtrack wise. I'm definitely going to use the PCM 2.0 from the JPN LD (thanks Buster D) and the Dolby 5.1 for the Live DVD (the CDS). I'm also going to use the DTS version of the CDS soundtrack (thanks MrBrown). I was also thinking a lossy track from the BD (the remix). What does everyone think?

[nafroe]

I thought the 2015 blu looked pretty nice as far as film grain goes... The frames from your regrade look fantastic! Really pushes it over the top, IMO. Plus, the original audio is always nice to have. :-)

Point of curiosity: if you are going to include a remixed track, why not use the the full bitrate DTS-HD MA? Is it a matter of aiming to fit the movie onto a BD-25?

Thanks for the hard work to everyone involved! Looks, and I'm sure sounds, fantastic!

[spoRv]

Even if usually I don't like too blue push in general, I think that Cameron wanted that for his movie, and I must admit I prefer it to the natural look of the BD (an admission I'm not prone to do often...), so, great job PDB!

The Japanese laserdisc used for the audio track is the squeezed version we are talking about in the other thread? If not, I suggest to use it instead (or add it to the list), as it seems the mix is closest to the theatrical one.

[zoidberg]

As far as soundtracks go I'd keep it theatrical. Will this project be synced to the blu? If so then people can mux the remix as they choose.
I'm currently watching the 35mm film cell auctions, they should be over in a couple of days (I also bagged an Aliens strip as well).
This project is looking great, can't wait to see it! I'm also strangely curious about the 3D conversion. I know it will probably be opened up to 16:9 with cropped (and possibly re rendered) VFX, but I was too young to watch T2 in the theatre and the chances of catching it in 35/70mm are slim these days.

[Stamper]

Great but some shots look wrong. The film shouldn't have natural flesh. T-1000 stepping out of the fire was filmed at twilight, now it looks bland, and there's no more reflection of the burning fire on the T-800 face on the bike with the kid (they used a reflector for that effect, also shot at twilight).
Also you're now burning the whites (first example, the explosion)
However in scenes like the lift, you improved the color and it now looks right.
Remember it should look like a film print, not video.
Any time the faces look naturaly lit, it looks like video. Films print give that orangey look that isn't supposed to look like real life, since it's film.
Most remasters get it wrong because the grading guys color the faces to look like in real life. From then on, they destroy the whole look of the film.