[Canceled] Terminator 2 (Theatrical Cut) (35 Project #4)

[MrBrown]

For some reason, most old transfers of Terminator films are blown out on DVD. It was for Terminator anamophic, T2 etc.

In fact the older 4/3 formated Image DVD for Terminator, looked better than the anamorphic version, with no clipped whites. Watch for example the moment the T-800 spins his bike to give chase, the sign of the Hotel is readable on the Image disc, it's unreadable on the anamorphic from MGM, and still unreadable in the 4K remaster.

An old 4:3 DVD by Image? Where do I find it?
I only knew of an 4:3 LD, and the first 1.66:1 German DVD, but not of a Full Frame DVD. Was ist open matted, or pan&scan (like the LD was)

[spoRv]

Just finished a quick look to my T2 laserdisc box set - http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/20243/PSE8...ion-(1991)

The quality is great for a laserdisc, and I can say that colors are really close to PDB - apart some slight magenta and/or green shift here and there, noticeable in particular when the video is stopped for analysis, but not that much in motion.

Can't say if this reflects the theatrical presentation, but that seems the case, at least according to what was written in the disc itself, in the supplemental section - as long as these statements could be trusted, of course... the blue scenes are all there; the main difference with PDB's is the bar scene, which is not blue, and faces in blue scenes, which have more or less a natural tone, just turned towards blue, while in PDB's they are all blue (or magenta, like in those two shots I mentioned before) and some of the blue are more on the teal side sometimes.

Overall, as I told before, PDB's presentation is right, no apparent problems in itself; but the laserdisc, too, has good colors and seems to have "right" ones in the right scenes...

[Stamper]

Mr Brown check dvdbeaver for the old 4/3 version

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare/terminator.htm

[MrBrown]

Uhm... Your link seems only compare image Widescreen vs. MGM, or am I blind?

[zoidberg]

Possibly by 4:3 Stamper means 4:3 LBX, ie non-anamorphic.

[Chewtobacca]

Possibly by 4:3 Stamper means 4:3 LBX, ie non-anamorphic.

That's almost certainly what Stamper means, and it's acceptable to refer to such DVDs as 4:3. He didn't say that the DVD was full screen.

[Stamper]

Yes the non anamorphic version.

[MrBrown]

Yeah, but it would be more precise to refer to it as a non anamorphic 1.85:1 DVD Version... There are people searching a 4:3 Full Screen Open Matted Version, also there were 4:3 pan and scan LaserDiscs from image entertainment, so a 4:3 full screen pan and scan could have been possible.

[Chewtobacca]

Yeah, but it would be more precise to refer to it as a non anamorphic 1.85:1 DVD Version...

And it would be even more precise to refer to it as a widescreen DVD with a DAR of 4:3 because, technically speaking, all DVD is anamorphically encoded.  But after a point, one has to accept that common terms are often loose, and so a widescreen DVD with a DAR of 16:9 becomes "an anamorphic DVD", and all DVDs with a DAR of 4:3 are referred to as such.  Stamper's terminology at least has the virtue of using the figures that are normally associated with the DAR; if there is a need to specify the video aspect ratio as distinct from the DAR, it's probably better to say "full screen" or 1.33:1 – in my experience, people usually do.

[MrBrown]

I suggest we do not derail the thread further in precision discussion.
When I read 4:3 I hoped for a 4:3 visible Video AR, it is not the case, thats too bad. It also would have been possible that the link won't contain screenshots, but a mention somewhere, so I asked. Well... still no movie video AR of 4:3 found on DVD.