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This is going to be my next project, taking the HD Theatrical Version and inserting upscaled extended parts from the DVD. I've got the German and Japanese blu rays and I've decided to use the Japanese video due to the slightly higher bitrate and the fact that it was encoded by Sony.
Reasonably straight forward, just not sure what to do about the audio. The Extended Version seems to have only been released as 2.0 AC3. The German disc has all sorts of Atmos and Aura tracks for the theatrical but I'm assuming they are in house remix jobs. The Japanese disc has 5.1 TrueHD.
Is there a reliable way to remix the 2.0 from just the extended parts to 5.1? So they can be combined with the 5.1 theatrical from the Japanese Blu Ray? Or is that just going to sound off and I'm better just keeping the whole thing as 2.0 AC3?
Also looks like there was a Japanese LD of the Extended Cut, can't find it for sale but I imagine it's very expensive. Don't suppose anyone has that?
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The Japanese LD should be very expensive indeed; apart the PCM track that must sounds better than AC3 2.0, I don't know if the video has different color grading or something else; bear in mind that it has Japanese hard subs!
About extended audio track: the 2.0 should be Dolby Surround, so I'd upmix it with a good Dolby Pro-Logic decoder, and use the 5.1 TrueHD; in this way it should/could/may be similar in quality to Theatrical cut.
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I guess it's not that rare (or valuable) in Japan
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2021-07-23, 01:19 PM
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Hardware wise, the "classic" (in this forum) Dolby SDU4 is a nice option, but not so easy to find nowaday; a viable option is to use Foobar2000 with one of its plugins, like Freesurround or the real Dolby Pro-Logic II, that gives you 5.1 instead 4.0
Personally I'd "slap" the BD onto DVD to get bigger frame (DVD) and better resolution (BD) using AutoOverlay, if you can/want to use it. If not, I'd use DVD as color reference.
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A thing about this movie always bothers me. When they are hacking his drive at the end, the director's cut re-orders events and it seems to make less sense than the theatrical version.
I haven't read the script in years (which got an actually printing) so I can't compare what was intended.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing a hybrid cut restoring the theatrical version of that scene.
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There is no director's cut. There is an extended Japanese cut with extra Takeshi Kitano scenes
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I appreciate it’s not the directors cut and it shouldn’t be referred to as that, but the Japanese version is about 9 minutes longer and the Kitano scenes are only 3-4 minutes.
One of the longest scenes is of Dolph Lundgren as the street preacher giving a sermon to his church about technology. The rest is mainly small extensions as opposed to lengthy scenes but there is extra violence, more Ice T, more Keanu etc. A lot of shots are reordered as well so this project might end up being a nightmare!
Just seems odd to read about the director dismissing it as only Kitano footage. Whilst there is some Kitano there is still a lot of footage that doesn’t feature him at all and I guess he’d know that as he shot it.
I’ve also just remembered the entire score is different as well, so the 5.1 hybrid track wouldn’t actually work. Best option is to try and find one of those Japanese LDs.
Zoidberg - which marketplace did you see that previously sold LD on?
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