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Buena Vista Pictures Title - Missing Extended Versions
#11
The Michael Bay Criterion LDs are hard to come by, Armageddon is particularly rare and only has a 2.0 PCM track as the 2 analogue tracks both contain audio commentaries, so the only good source for 5.1 would be the later Criterion DVD. Supposedly the colour grading is unique to the LDs, although the Armageddon Criterion DVD used the same non-anamorphic master whereas The Rock's Criterion DVD used a newer anamorphic transfer which ended up on blu ray.
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#12
(2021-07-25, 08:32 AM)zoidberg Wrote: The director's cut of Armageddon was anamorphic on the UK PAL DVD release. At the time it was a very nice transfer.
It's never wise to automatically assume the DVD mixes are the same as the LDs, most DVDs were 5.1 only (no 2.0) which Dolby mandated had to be remixed in order to downmix satisfactorily for backwards compatibility, in most cases this trashed the rear soundstage. Even DVDs with 5.1 and 2.0 tracks lacked the teeth of the LDs.
Quite a few of the very early blus from Touchstone/BV and Sony have PCM multichannel tracks. Don't know if that was down to license fees or some other reason.

I think that Buena Vista and Sony wanted to showcase the superiority of the Blu-Ray format by including uncompressed audio on their early releases. I don't necessarily think that it had anything to do with License Fees, to be honest.
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#13
I looked into doing these myself.
The problem with the extended cuts is the additional scene materials quality is subpar, even in SD.
Even an AI upscale produced questionable results.
Although this was a few years ago and AI upscaling keeps on evolving, so maybe your results will be better than my tests.

The PAL Armageddon DVD was by far the best quality (both as a whole and the quality of the additional scenes) out of all the extended editions.
Gone in 60 seconds is also pretty close, and along with Armageddon a true Director's Cut.

Best of luck with your projects good sir Smile
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#14
So I’m going to revisit these projects and I wondered if anybody out there is able to rip me the following region one extended edition DVDs?

Gone In 60 Seconds
Crimson Tide
Enemy Of The State
Fantastic four 2005

I already have PAL discs but I want to try and get NTSC discs as well to test the panup technique and of course, an NTSC version means no re-encoding the audio.

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If nobody can supply, give me a shout and I'll see if I can pick them up cheap
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#16
I've the US DVD for Crimson Tide Extended & Con Air Unrated. Also Armageddon Criterion DVD. If needed, let me know @alleycat

I'd also extend the search for Gone in 60 Seconds, Enemy of the State & Fantastic Four as full DVD rip
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(2024-05-13, 06:40 AM)bendermac Wrote: I've the US DVD for Crimson Tide Extended & Con Air Unrated. Also Armageddon Criterion DVD. If needed, let me know @alleycat

I'd also extend the search for Gone in 60 Seconds, Enemy of the State & Fantastic Four as full DVD rip

Hi @bendermac,

Crimson Tide would be fantastic thank you. I've actually got Con Air myself so I don't need that one thanks.
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