I never really compared the different cantonese Mono tracks. I do not think I ever was impressed by any of hte tracks, so none really stood out.

Thinking about it, I would say that, even with his outstanding viduals most of the old Heroic Bloodshed John Woo movies are not very astounding on the sound side. at least whats on the home media releases. I never saw any of the classics in theatre.

(2022-02-10, 04:04 PM)MrBrown Wrote: I never really compared the different cantonese Mono tracks. I do not think I ever was impressed by any of hte tracks, so none really stood out.

Thinking about it, I would say that, even with his outstanding viduals most of the old Heroic Bloodshed John Woo movies are not very astounding on the sound side. at least whats on the home media releases. I never saw any of the classics in theatre.

I think you are right and that might be a HK films thing in general. I think most HK films were mono still throughout the 90s and little attention was paid to audio.

I’d be very curious to see more theatrically accurate subs. Even the criterion seems to use some form of dub titles. The Criterion LD mono still seems to be the best overall choice for an audio source.

Or alternatively; should I just give up on the upscale and just go to the next logical step? Regrade the Japanese BD to the French DVD.

I was playing with auto-regrading over the weekend and the BD "reacts well" to being regraded. The auto regrade is pretty close to the French DVD before I even tweak it.

Regraded to the FRE DVD/Original JPN DVD

That could be cool, if the BD reacts well to regrading, it means the image is nearly untouched, that scan has kinda that blah looking look that is how every HD film is shot with, before timing takes place.

I'd personally vote to just regrade the JP BD.

To my eyes, it looks like an IP scan with minimal grading and a blanket yellow tint (possibly a misguided attempt to emulate some older home video transfers).

The FR DVD is probably more accurate.

Wow nice! Yea, agreed on the grading. Looks like its missing all the color timing.

I have a custom copy I got long ago that has the Criterion LD audio (resampled to 48khz) synced to it. There are PGS subtitles too, but I'm not sure if they are dubtitles since there is no English track with the release.

I think I have on file the JP BR with the Criterion LD sync if you want it. Sync is already made, all you have to do is swap the picture file.

PDB, I'd say regrade the blu-ray. Let me know if you need any assistance as I did steps on a similar project.

(2022-02-14, 11:00 PM)bronan Wrote: Wow nice! Yea, agreed on the grading. Looks like its missing all the color timing.

I have a custom copy I got long ago that has the Criterion LD audio (resampled to 48khz) synced to it. There are PGS subtitles too, but I'm not sure if they are dubtitles since there is no English track with the release.

(2022-02-14, 11:06 PM)Stamper Wrote: I think I have on file the JP BR with the Criterion LD sync if you want it. Sync is already made, all you have to do is swap the picture file.

I do believe that that's the discussed msp1815 version, the 'first' version of the Hong Kong Rescue. I may be wrong though.

Sounds like regrade is what people are leaning towards. That was the eventually end point of this project. Might as well get there faster.

I do want to point out, although I like to add as much as possible, this is going to be a simple regrade not some "definitive" work like other HB projects. Just something to watch with better colors and sound.

If anyone what's me to add non-English subs, you can send them to me but they have to be in sync. As stated, I'm not a subs guy.

(2022-02-15, 08:30 AM)Serums Wrote: PDB, I'd say regrade the blu-ray. Let me know if you need any assistance as I did steps on a similar project.

I wouldn't be stepping on your feet would I? IE if you all ready have something planned?

(2022-02-15, 08:30 AM)Serums Wrote:

(2022-02-14, 11:00 PM)bronan Wrote: Wow nice! Yea, agreed on the grading. Looks like its missing all the color timing.

I have a custom copy I got long ago that has the Criterion LD audio (resampled to 48khz) synced to it. There are PGS subtitles too, but I'm not sure if they are dubtitles since there is no English track with the release.

(2022-02-14, 11:06 PM)Stamper Wrote: I think I have on file the JP BR with the Criterion LD sync if you want it. Sync is already made, all you have to do is swap the picture file.

I do believe that that's the discussed msp1815 version, the 'first' version of the Hong Kong Rescue. I may be wrong though.

Yeah I believe I have that version (Matt_Stevens?) from the OT I believe. I remember thinking crap, I spent all this money getting the Japanese BD (and Project A) from Amazon.JP only to have it float around latter. I can pull the mono from that also.