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Poll: Which color grading would you prefer?
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"Criterion-esque", as post #7
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French LD like, as post #47
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4 30.77%
Both!
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[Idea] Robocop (1987) UAR version
#11
Well, shifting from UAR to VAR is just changing from a distracting way to watch a movie to a differently distracting one - with the difference that UAR shows more image!

I should add that UAR is a complete novelty, and the clip is way too short to let our brain enough time to adjust its perception; I can say that, after you will be used to the whole UAR idea, few minutes in the film and you (almost surely) will completely forgot about the changing borders/corners... a bit like color grading; have you noted that, when in motion - apart the worst case scenarios - you (me, everyone) never notice a "bad" grading? That's because our brain is very good to adjust the white balance, and not only.
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#12
Probably, though it feels weird by bits. I also never noticed before that the shot where the two women get down to fix the machine is shown replayed twice from another angle LOL
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#13
I've hunted high and low, but it seems there were no theatrical cut DVD in German, French or Italian; luckily, the Sony BD has the French track.

So, about audio, I plan to include the following:
English DTS 5.1 1536kbps (from Sony BD PCM 5.1)
English AC-3 5.1 640kbps (untouched, from Sony BD)
French AC-3 5.1 640kbps (untouched, from Sony BD)
English commentary AC-3 2.0 192kbps (untouched, from Sony BD)
English PCM 2.0 from laserdisc (from Image if found, or from Criterion edited)
German, Italian, Spanish (from TC DVD if existing, or from DC BD edited)
a bonus track (surprise!)

EDIT: there were also German and French laserdisc; it would be great to have those PCM tracks as well, but I really doubt someone here has them.
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#14
Ouch! The French 5.1 is notoriously very, very bad. It totally ruins many lines. They have corrected a few of them for the remastered DC, and yet some remain in there. If you can get the French PCM track from an LD, that's the way to go.

"J'en prendrais pour 1 $."
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#15
Well, as I'm 99% sure I'll be forced to take the DC and edit it to get foreign sound, and as the French is included between them, I could always use the edited DC instead of the TC.

About laserdisc: I don't know any French or German collector, sadly... Sad
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#16
It seems that I do have the French PCM track, except that it's been resynched and edited to match the remastered DC... I remember I got it 'cause I wanted to make a custom audio track with upmixed to 5.1 from that PCM in order to use its proper lines and put them back into the 5.1 mix. I had actually already tried that using my own VHS recording but wasn't completely successful with it. Maybe Stamper can find the original untouched PCM track as he knows more than me about French repacks and where to find them.
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#17
Is the PCM track from laserdisc?

Well, I started to encode it this night - four parallel encoding for a grand total of 1fps Eek, sometimes a bit faster, that takes my poor CPU to 100%; it should be ready tomorrow.
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#18
Yes I think it's on one of my hard drives. I'll hunt down and PM you links for the french original. It's from the french laserdisc and the only way to hear the original french untouched. Not sure I have one matched to the TC though. The only release is resynced to the DC but it shouldn't be hard to resync, using the Sony track for the moments where the DC branches in.
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#19
Well done so far.
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#20
Checked first and last minutes (about 15m in total); alignment is good, apart few slight wobbling here and there (noticeable in particula in the ED209 scene; should fix it, I guess...)

On most scenes, maybe more than 90%, the AR is just 1.33:1 with small added slices on both sides; it's pretty constant, so VAR haters should have no problems watching this!
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