Halloween (1978) Criterion Laserdisc Theatrical Mono Synced to 4K UHD Blu-ray

[PDB]

You need only ask once.

[Warm Gun]

I simply synced the mono from the included Blu-ray. Speaking about the Lionsgate, of course. Is the LaserDisc mono better?

[Endocryne]

I simply synced the mono from the included Blu-ray. Speaking about the Lionsgate, of course. Is the LaserDisc mono better?

Yeah, Way Better Than The surround mix and the Shout Mono

[Warm Gun]

I simply synced the mono from the included Blu-ray. Speaking about the Lionsgate, of course. Is the LaserDisc mono better?

Yeah, Way Better Than The surround mix and the Shout Mono

No, I'm talking about the mono on the 2007 Blu-ray that's included with the first 4K.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Halloween-Blu-ray/521/

But I looked again and found someone answered my question.

Just preordered the new UHD from Shout!Factory upgrading from the Anchor Bay release hoping for the Original Uncompressed Mono this time around.

The new 4K release from Shout Factory does have the Original Mono Mix included. Unfortunately it is the same "Filtered Mono" mix that Chace Productions processed in 1999 and has been included on the 2007 and 2014 BluRay releases of Halloween (1978).  Initial reviews of the picture quality for the new 4K scan of the OCN are favorable so the best you are going to get for this release is to take the new 4K picture and combine it with the Criterion Laserdisc Mono Mix for the reference. It's a shame Shout Factory went lazy with the audio side of their new presentation.

[mak100]

Hello There!

Is Criterion mono audio still available for 35th?

Could you send it to me along with the version for Shout 4k?

Thank you very much!

[mak100]

I've been reading a little about this. And I can already give you a conclusion based on the information that I have collected.

The original audio track from an 80s VHS tape does NOT have the empty gun click at the end. Therefore, the audio of the laserdisc of Criterion was modified in some way. It is not the original.

There is only digital publication containing the original audio: The Complete Collection. TrueHD 2.0 track contains the original track. In 4K you will find DTS-HD 2.0 mono, but at 24 bits, so it has been altered. The original recording is 16 bits. With Eac3to, I have been able to verify that the recording of the TrueHD is 24 bits with Superfluous Zero bytes, so you can eliminate those bits of more without loss and stay with a totally native WAV at 16 bits.

Finally, you must use a program like Goldwave and save only one channel in WAV (New) to 16 bits. PCM 1.0 mono 16 bits is the original track.

Enjoy your original track in which yes, the dialogues of the beginning are heard.

PD: If you are looking for maximum purity, put this track in the 2007 or 35th Anniversary BluRay. In any other way, you must alter the fps of it to fit. I advise the BluRay of Spain (Edición Coleccionista), it (35th Anniv) has the greatest bitrate.

[The Aluminum Falcon]

@mak100 that's interesting , so you're saying that the Criterion is some some sort of hybrid remix even though it's mono?

Few questions: where are you getting the 80s VHS tape and how is the fidelity of that tape? It's been known that sometimes VHS tapes beat DVD re-releases or sometimes even Blu-Rays.

Your observation about The Complete Collection might be spot on because @Moshrom seems to concur here that the lossless mono audio in The Complete Collection is the best version of the mono that has been carried around since the THX DVD.

https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/search/lab...%281978%29

[zoidberg]

It's worth remembering that a 70s movie was recorded/mixed/mastered in analogue and as such has no bit depth. The bit depth would only apply to subsequent digitization of said analogue tapes.

Interesting info about the gun 'click' on the VHS. Do you have any way of capturing this VHS track @mak100? Besides the click are there any other notable differences?

There is an earlier Image LD release of Halloween from 1985, it's analogue audio (CX encoded) but would shed some more light on this issue, alas the asking price is typically high due to it's collectible nature.

[The Aluminum Falcon]

There's an LD rip of Halloween on the Spleen. Maybe worth the listen? It's the extended cut.

[mak100]

Hello there!

1- It is true that analog recording has no bits depth. But it is that the first digital scanings were 16bits. Notice, in no release of the film there has been talk of "New Restored Original Mono", as it happens in The FOG of the same director. They are only reusing tracks.

Safety and after checking the VHS clips, the audio of The Complete Collection is the oldest. Those clips were on YouTube for a long time and it was a closed theme in other places:

https://forum.blu-ry.com/showpost.php?p=...count=4177

2- What is certain is that the criterion track was modified. I do not have a copy of the VHS clip that I can share, but here it has the right sound that the gun would have to do (it is the same as the Truehd track of The Complete Collection).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxRc3Z-pAqc

Unfortunately, I have not obtained the Criterion track to be able to compare more thoroughly and tell you more differences, if any of you still have it, I will continue to be very grateful that you can.

3- On the other hand, I agree. The Truehd 2.0 track sounds too clean and low, but when you eliminate one of the two channels, it is much more forceful, even if it has a Stereo sound equipment.

4- What has not happened already will not happen. There are already too many releases and many years since its premiere. The only way to obtain the original 100% Halloween track is to rescue a 35mm tape.

Do not think I am crazy, a copy of Halloween rescued by fans will be published in the next few days. Maybe get a copy of that tape ends so many years of speculation.

Halloween filmed at 24 fps if I remember correctly, so I should fit into a current 4K copy without too much effort. In any case, there are 4K Halloween launches both at 23,976 and 24. Therefore, depending on how that track is, you just have to choose the right launch to keep it unchanged.


https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Hallow.../1#1501090

PD: If you want the Truehd 2.0 Mono untouched track of The Complete Collection, just ask for me. I will share it with pleasure.