Top Gun LD audio

[X5gb]

The 4/3 dvd is missing some info on the sides that OM 16/9 and 2.40:1 have. Maybe a IMAX VAR would work PDB, would love that and would be the perfect option if achievable by you, 4/3 for the flying scenes (using ramdom hybrid method like you said where the height is more important than the sides) and 16/9 OM for rest (alot of un-needed headroom in talking scenes so extra side info is preferable). But if that is not an option, second choice would be a 4/3 hd hybrid like you said. Color-timing wise, happy with either original 4/3 or your tweaked 3d OM, UHD was too golden for my tastes. Personally think the UHD Atmos is not needed, wasn't impressed with that either but its your decision.

[PDB]

I was thinking that the 4:3 OM was missing a lot of info also. But once I did a rough overlay, I was surprised to find a lot of shots have more top/bottom info on the 4:3 compared to the 16:9 OM. I was thinking the 4:3 would be a center cut of the 16:9 for most of the film. But like you said it is a lot of head room for sure.



But you are right as it varies widely shot to shot. Like in the briefing room or the bar. One shot might have more info but the next one might be cropped. Like the briefing room seems to be split half and half. So there might not be a perfect solution in the that regard as in one scene you might have multiple switches between 16:9 and 4:3



Mind you I didn't compare this to the 2.39 BDs. I only have the old one anyway but I expect there to be a tiny bit of info on the sides, which seems to be normal.

I wonder if I can pull off two versions. One all 4:3, the other switching to 16:9 like you said X5. It would be a challenge but doable if I can get the alignment to work. Big if.

As for color not sure. I kind of like the cool DVD's color over the warmer later transfers. Not sure which is accurate of course. Only have circumstantial evidence in that regard.

Only reason I thought of the Atmos was I thought it would be nice with the height effects but I agree with you X5 that its not needed.

[BDgeek]

PBD, if you think the video from the 4K remastered BD is warranted, I can help you with that.

BTW, the prospect of this new release is looking great!

[X5gb]

Like I said PDB, there is definitely more top and bottom, only the sides are missing info. That's why I suggested only the flying scenes be left as 4/3 (can just use the upscaled dvd if good enough rather than hybrid) and all other scenes 16/9 (using OM web-dl). It would save on all that aligning work and because of the too much headroom issue, similar to MI films aspect ratio change for action scenes, not a complete VAR for each individual scene. Happy with your thought's to go with the dvd color's.

[PDB]

Like I said PDB, there is definitely more top and bottom, only the sides are missing info. That's why I suggested only the flying scenes be left as 4/3 (can just use the upscaled dvd if good enough rather than hybrid) and all other scenes 16/9 (using OM web-dl). It would save on all that aligning work and because of the too much headroom issue, similar to MI films aspect ratio change for action scenes, not a complete VAR for each individual scene. Happy with your thought's to go with the dvd color's.

I'll see what I can do

[dvdmike]

The Atmos is one of the worse remixes I have ever heard

[Stamper]

Having the flying scenes 4/3 would defeat the point of the experience I think. The screen should instead expand for the flying scenes?
So you have all the dialogue scenes in 4/3 and the flying scenes 16/9, like the BTTF expanded 4/3 version which had the VFX scenes wider.

[X5gb]

The only reason BTTF had the VFX scenes like that was because they were filmed hard-matted (and are cropped in the 4/3 version) where as the talking scenes aren't, totally different scenario with this film. The flying scenes are what would benefit most from the 4/3, they even look tight in the 16/9 OM (let alone the 2.40:1) and as you can see from PDB screengrabs are not cropped on the sides like they mostly are in the talking scenes (besides the too much headroom issue in certain shots). And as already said, most switching aspect ratio films like the MI and Batman films only expand during action scenes, and remain 2.35/2.40:1 (1.77:1 would be the case for Top Gun) for talking scenes. It would also match TG: Maverick if that comes out in an IMAX expanding frame version. I hope this makes sense why I suggested the flying scenes now, Stamper.

[X5gb]

PDB,

Have a new source (STARZ AMZN CA) for you to replace the German Titles and Subs of AMZN De Open Matte(which still has highest quality and bit-rate overall). Better quality than Mex iTunes for those inserts. There is just one slight split second digital glitch (in both VBR & CBR encode) during "Indian Ocean. Present Day." sub which the Mex will need to be used for them frames.

Will PM shortly.

[PDB]

PDB,

Have a new source (STARZ AMZN CA) for you to replace the German Titles and Subs of AMZN De Open Matte(which still has highest quality and bit-rate overall). Better quality than Mex iTunes for those inserts. There is just one slight split second digital glitch (in both VBR & CBR encode) during "Indian Ocean. Present Day." sub which the Mex will need to be used for them frames.

Will PM shortly.

Thanks X5 I appreciate it.

Been having a rough go of it for a few days. Lost more then one HDD. Three actually. I was able to mitigate the loss of two of them but the third was a major blow resulting in few projects gone missing. That includes what I had done with Top Gun so far. Glad to get some new material to work with if I have to start over. Thanks again.