Proposal: The James Cameron Project

[alexpeden2000]

So refresh my memory, which is better? The T2 1080p BD remaster or the T2 2160p UHDBD remaster?

I vaguely remember a discussion that some said the details or encode was better on the 1080p BD? I could be wrong about that.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x=417...&i=13&go=1

I'd say there's slightly less AI-smoothing on the 1080p

[PDB]

So refresh my memory, which is better? The T2 1080p BD remaster or the T2 2160p UHDBD remaster?

I vaguely remember a discussion that some said the details or encode was better on the 1080p BD? I could be wrong about that.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x=417...&i=13&go=1

I'd say there's slightly less AI-smoothing on the 1080p

Good find but now I'm wondering why the framing is different...

[alexpeden2000]

Was the 4K not the basis for the 3D presentation? Could the framing have been changed as part of that?

[alexpeden2000]

Actually, the 4K seems closer to the older BD, who knows haha

[SwatDB]

And the Eagle Pictures IT UHD (though it has the same framing as the UK UHD for this shot) is less bright, but has higher compression [81913 kbps] Best UHD PQ for the 2017? as we generally know the Best 1080 PQ is 2015 Lions Gate BD.

And BTW, I couldn't help but notice that there were 3 subway ads (could find other DVD/BDs that contain the ads in question outside of VHS'es) and T2 3D making of when you look at the BD's files (or in this case rip this BD). Haven't found out if those are mean't to be easter eggs or not.

Just wanted to get it out of the way, in case you didn't notice them, first glance.

[Stamper]

It looks to me the UHD had some adjustment made that were not duplicated to the HD version or vice versa.
That's the huge trouble when you have multiple deliverables, though I heard that since, with multiple outputs, one fix of a framing or other in one project timeline, may now be instantly updated on all the deliverables versions down the line.

[PDB]

Trying to get this whole project back up and running but I need some more advice.

Which BD of T1 do people think would be a better base to upscale and regrade?

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=1564&d...=0&l=0&a=0

I know the old one has compression issues via MPEG-2 and is softer but the newer BD is most likely has been "tampered" with (as the UHD probably will be also). I can fix the MPEG-2 issues but being a different scan, it will likely never be as sharp (or maybe as detailed) as an upscale of the AVC BD would be.

[Hitcher]

UK version looks a lot better in those comparisons.

[stwd4nder2]

I agree, going by those screenshots UK looks much better

[Stamper]

If I may suggest, use the remaster for most of the footage. However, make a comparison on any shot where there is a TV, or screen, in the shot. I think that on the remasters, the tube like look of the TV screens was doctored using power windows, to look LCD monitor style. I noticed this on all JC remasters. There's something funny going on those screens.