[In progress] "The Terminator" 35mm scan emulation regrade

[thedullahan07]

Wow, thank you very much for sharing these images with me. It's great to have some insight on the actual print. I was under the impression that the tint on the Blu-ray (2013) and UHD was a revisionist choice, but it's actually similar to the '84 print. I was misguided by my sources, so thank you for clearing this up! I still enjoy what you are doing with your project to create an alternative that looks closer to T2. The blues, purples, and cyans in T2 are pleasing to the eye and fit well with T1 as well. We have similar tastes.

[Beber]

Yeah, I like blue. I like to see it on 35mm film, the way it goes purple in darker areas and cyan in lighter areas, like in bright reflections on wet asphalt at night, as in "Lethal Weapon", "Terminator 2", "Heat", "The Untouchables", "Batman Returns". "The Abyss" as well, but not so much on asphalt in this one for obvious reasons. Usually, the dreaded teal most people complain about in remasters, when they're right to complain, I mean, I noticed is more cyan than teal originally on 35mm film. That's the case for "Batman Returns" for instance. Teal is a cousin of Cyan's so to speak, as both are a mix of blue and green, but leaning more towards green for teal and more towards blue for cyan. And cyan is prettier than teal, to my taste at least.

[TServo2049]

I've seen 80s prints before; the problem with newer masters isn't the teal/green itself. IMO, the issue is much more with the modern power-window digital grading that is used to (re)apply that kind of color scheme to the raw scans. I'm thinking of examples like Aliens, where Sgt. Apone's skin is skewed so yellow he looks like he has jaundice. African-American actors just do not have that kind of dull yellowish complexion on photochemically graded 35mm, even if there is a cyan/teal/green cast to everything else. That cast never affected actors' skin tones to the degree it does in modern regrades.

[Beber]

Well, there aren't too many Black actors in "Batman Returns", and they nevertheless wrongfully chose a teal shade over the prettier and more accurate shade of cyan for the overall color palette on the whole remaster. Which is a bummer, 'cause it's the best approximation we've ever had, yet the correct shade would have made it virtually perfect.