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My Thread of Random Color Comparisons |
Posted by: LucasGodzilla - 2019-03-27, 04:35 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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I just thought I'd make this thread as a little personal note keeping system for myself and for others to see. A way to keep track of the many instances where there are some pretty massive color incongruencies between modern HD transfers of older movies and older transfers or scanned trailers without necessarily bringing a whole project upon myself. A little hobby thing really as I experiment more and more with Dr. Dre's Color Matching tool.
Opera (1987)
Browsing around YouTube, I ended up finding an Orion trailer of the movie.
For the most part, there aren't any real incredibly notable color differences that are worth really taking note of except for one very brief shot.
(Trailer - Scorpion Blu-Ray - Arrow DVD)
In the trailer, the statue head is bathed in blue lighting which seems to be mostly absent in other transfers. As such, a took a moment and white-balanced the trailer, and then I lined up the frame from the trailer (white balanced it from the Orion logo preceding the trailer) and the Scorpion Blu-Ray to make a small LUT in Dr. Dre's Color Matching tool. From there, I imported a latter frame from the same shot to regrade, resulting in this.
Results aren't perfect, and I have no idea how accurate that trailer really is, but it's something I find interesting to look at.
Inferno (1980)
Similarly to Opera, on YouTube, I found an Arrow trailer of the movie.
A few things notable about this was how it's darker and more colorful than any of the transfers I've seen. There were several shots shown that on the Blu-Rays I've seen that were neutral in comparison and missing some of the blues shown in the trailer.
As such, I white-balanced the trailer and lined up frames with their Blue Underground Blu-Ray counterparts and threw them into color matcher.
I think the results are nice since even though I'm not sure how accurate the trailer is in terms of colors, it does have a closer semblance to the likes of Suspiria which I admittedly prefer.
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Help me build the "definitive" FanRes computer! |
Posted by: spoRv - 2019-03-25, 08:04 PM - Forum: Everything else...
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Lately, my last computer had problems; taken to a computer shop to change the PSU, discovering they KILLED my main HDD, using cable from the old PSU - which, of course, was not compatible... adding insult to injuries, they do not even admitted they made a wrong move, but just said "it can happen in every moment!" - where the HDD PCB was clearly burned... I also bought a brand new PCB for that, only to discover that it was (not) the only problem... so, I lost EVERY previously made Fundamental Collection final projects! More, I spent money for a useless PCB, a small SSD just to make it work temorarily, and a new PSU - useless, as the problem was the CPU cooler!
Long story short, I decided to sell the remains of the PC (CPU/MB/RAM/PSU) for few bucks, and to restart with a new, fast, powerful HEDT!
What I wanted to build actually cost, brand new, an arm and a leg (plus the left kidney, I suppose), so I started to see around for an used one.
Found that one of my friend decided to sell his supa-dupa workstation - barely used, in very pristine condition - because he wants to upgrade to "faster hardware" (just for the sake of it)... the price of his rig is very good indeed (here, it's possible to find out at the same price used computers with just one GPU, half the RAM, worst MB, half wattage PSU etc.)
The system is made by the following components:
CPU: AMD Threadripper 1950X
MB: ASUS ROG Zenith Extreme
cooler: Enermax Liqtech II TR4 240mm
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 64GB 3200 CL14
GPU: 2x AMD Vega Frontier 16GB
PSU: Enermax G2 1300W
add to them my own old case, small SATA SSD, various HDDs.
Now, the problem is, I can't afford it right now, because I had to divert those funds to cover sudden expenses that could be not delayed; sure, I could always wait several months and buy another computer, yet this rig is great, the price too, and I am 100% sure it is in very good condition, almost brand new, quite some residual warranty - all things that will probably never happen again for the same item.
My friend said that he can allow me some time to pay it in full... so, I'm here to ask if there is someone that could be interested to help me buying it; all money received will be used only and exclusively to cover the computer cost and, in the (very remote) chance funds will be higher, they will be used to add NVME m.2 SSD(s) for fast caching, and HDD(s) for archival purposes (and possibly backup). This computer will be used, of course, to make fanres projects - I have several half-made (to name few, Dobermann regrade, Silent Hill UAR) almost ready, but I thought to release the following first:
Alien UHD - http://alien.tk
I know that an UHD-BD will be released on April 23rd 2019, but I'm pretty sure it will not be as good as mine, and it will be wonderful to release mine before it, and discover I was right! also, other UHD projects will be released soon, but I do need that kind of power to release them in few weeks, instead of many months (if ever) using my actual 12yrs old PC...
Because there are always some new users (and some old ones, too), that ask if they can do something to help me... well, now it's the time! If you like my previous projects, and want to see some brand new and improved ones, chime in!
For the moment, I just want to know if you will/can donate some cash - to let my friend be aware; then, eventually, starting to raise money in the next week.
Thanks a lot in advance to anybody who will contribute to keep my fan restoration dream alive!
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CPU: new or used? |
Posted by: spoRv - 2019-03-23, 01:46 AM - Forum: Everything else...
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CPU is a very important part in a computer build; most powerful ones are quite expensive, so thinking about buying an used one could be understandable. Yet, it would be quite difficult (if not impossible) to understand if it's good or not.
Now, three questions:
1) would you buy an used CPU?
2) if so, at what price (in percent)?
3) if not, latest model at full price, or previous one at a reduced price?
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Nightbreed (1990) [Project: Celluloid] |
Posted by: LucasGodzilla - 2019-03-15, 12:54 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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So the other day after hearing there was the new three-hour long "Ultimate Cabal Cut" coming out, I decided to actually sit down and check the Director's Cut Shout! Factory had released that preceded the Cabal Cut Blu-Ray Seraphim did. Apart from noticing the obvious discontinuity resultant of still missing footage at the time, something kind of caught my eye throughout. The film was, well, looking an awful lot like Arrow's Hellraiser transfer. There were numerous instances where I felt that the lighting was a bit too revealing and times where I noticed blue patches in a neutral looking scene. Doing a bit of poking around, I found out that this movie was shot by the same cinematographer who did Hellraiser. On top of that, I found something rather interesting.
A trailer of the movie that's not only darker but far bluer than any transfer I've ever seen.
At first, I thought it was a mistake, especially with the text being blue for the most part. However, the more I kept re-watching the trailer and watched other trailers, the more I began to suspect that this was how it was originally intended. The text, in the end, is white which leads me to believe the blue text was intentional and not a flaw.
I also saw the same trailer which was sourced from an Australian VHS which blanket tinted everything in a colder color scheme.
For comparison's sake, here's a Polish version of the same trailer that's more akin to the colors of the current version of the movie (less blues, more natural / neutral).
So although I do not know where the trailer Deathtrap posted on YouTube originated from, I strongly believe that it is the closest thing I've got at this current point in time to recreate the original color scheme. Sure, it may not be some fancy scan of the trailer and nor do trailers typically showcase the most accurate of colors in comparison to the final project, however without any proper scans of 35mm film cells floating around apart from some display cases (which I'd rather not touch for several reasons), I believe the trailer is the closest thing to the originally intended color scheme.
So with everything in mind, I currently am thinking of attempting to regrade imitating the trailer to give the movie to reinstate some of those classic Barker-esque blues. I believe it'd be better than my Hellraiser grade since the trailer showcases clips from practically every major setting so it'd be more encompassing than the limited scans stills I had for that project. As such, this will allow me to create more consistent LUTs to apply to scenes throughout the movie.
I plan on eventually regrading the Ultimate Cabal Cut once that comes out, but at this very moment, I've only got my Shout! Factory Blu-Ray. Thankfully, it seems that they would share the exact same color scheme since it was produced by the same company (Seraphim), so hopefully that won't put a hitch in the project when that three-hour cut comes around.
I haven't actually started on this project yet though since I still need to fix up the Hellraiser grade and I'll be busy for the next few days due to other real-life priorities, so for now, I'll just leave this as a proposal thread. I also would like to ask if some of you have any better sources to base the grade off of (like actual scanned stills or a higher quality trailer that doesn't have the flat color scheme). So do tell though, what do y'all think?
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