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It's A Mad Mad Mad Mad World (1963) 1991 Cut in HD |
Posted by: Dek Rollins - 2019-07-28, 04:19 AM - Forum: Released
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This is a project I've wanted to tackle for some time now, and recently I figured I better start getting ready to make or I'll let it sit on back burner forever. What I aim to do, if the thread title isn't obvious, is to recreate the 1991 restored LaserDisc cut of this classic film using the Criterion restoration of the roadshow cut as a primary video source. I grew up watching the 1991 cut on the double VHS release, and I really think that restoration, though technically less complete overall, creates a more complete film with overall better pacing.
Probably the biggest reason I wanted to do this is because the "Ray... hit him!" bit was cut from the Criterion restoration, and it's one of my favorite moments of the scene (I believe it wasn't included because they found it wasn't actually in the roadshow cut).
Anyway, I'm here to ask for help on getting the LaserDisc source in the best quality. I was planning on using a LaserDisc capture that's on MySpleen as the source, but I had trouble using a decomb filter on it (I'm not very familiar with deinterlacing methods, especially with LDs). The capture itself also seems rather poor quality compared to some I've seen of other films (heavily compressed video with a lot of composite color artifacts).
So, does anybody have a good capture of this LD, or have a good method of getting a progressive scan conversion?
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Laserdisc PCM Capture Guide |
Posted by: bronan - 2019-07-21, 08:58 PM - Forum: Capture and rip
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This guide is for doing bit perfect (identical to source) captures of the digital PCM track on Laserdiscs. In general you only need a few things, and the process is very simple. The thing that complicates it is that there is a whole slew of audio interfaces, sound cards, and recording software out there, each with their own quirks and processes. This guide is mainly based on the hardware and software I'm using, but it should still be handy for all since the basic concepts will be the same. So I just want to say up front that I don't think this is the way, just a way. If you use something different or have any suggestions please feel free to leave a reply.
1. Hardware setup
![[Image: 4r5IWfX.png]](https://i.imgur.com/4r5IWfX.png)
The hardware setup for the capture is pretty straightforward: your Laserdisc player outputs a digital signal via its optical output that is routed into your PC and captured via recording software. The thing that is not so straight forward is making sure nothing happens to the signal between the Laserdisc player and the file that ends up on your drive. There are 2 places where you will commonly get snagged when trying to achieve bit perfect capture: the audio interface and the recording software. Even if a cheap consumer soundcard has a digital input, it's unlikely to support a wide range of sample rates and will just re-sample everything to a certain rate (48 kHz for instance). Because of this, it's absolutely crucial you use a sound card that supports ASIO and can pass through 44.1kHz signals without altering them. In general, pro music recording gear is the best option for both analog and digital capture.
2. Audio Device Config
Once your hardware is all setup and connected, the first thing to do is open the control panel for your audio device and make sure everything is setup correctly for 16-bit digital capture at 44.1 kHz. For instance, on my ESI the input method needs toggled between Digital and Analog, and the Digital input can be toggled between several sampling rates for capture. It's possible your device may automatically capture at the right rate, but I would recommend always installing the driver software and double checking things
![[Image: iQyemfl.png]](https://i.imgur.com/iQyemfl.png)
3.Recording Software
I tried a ton of different software I saw recommended online for capturing bit perfect, and had no luck with anything except for Cockos Reaper. While it's not free, it does have a full featured 60 day trial that should give you plenty of time to decide if its worth shelling out the 60 bones for. I also use it for syncing (a guide for another day), so for me it was more than worth the price tag. There are just a couple things to do in Reaper before you can begin recording:
- In Preferences, set the Audio System to ASIO:
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- Back in the main window, confirm the sample rate on the top right is 44.1 (don't worry about the 24-bit, it won't affect 16-bit captures)
- Create a new track with stereo inputs as shown below. Note that even if the track on the LD is mono you still need to capture it as stereo.
- Arm the track for recording and you are ready to record.
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- After recording your track, go to File->Render and copy the following settings:
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4. So is it Bit Perfect?
Now that you have a recorded track, you're probably wondering if its really bit perfect or not. Unfortunately there's no easy way for us to compare what we recorded back to what's actually on the Laserdisc, but there is a method where you burn a test CD and play it back in your Laserdisc player. Please see my post on the Bit Perfect Testkit for instructions and more information.
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Massive Laserdisc sale |
Posted by: poita - 2019-07-19, 12:27 AM - Forum: Requests, proposals, help
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https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/cnsystemsaus...ipg=&_from=
This guy will give bulk discounts, and will ship me any quantity of discs for about USD14 in freight, and if buying bulk, will sell most titles for $5 each.
If anyone wants some titles, make a list and I can order them on your behalf and store them here, or capture them on our X9 where we tap the feed directly from the laser, resulting in much higher quality captures than is possible via composite or S-Video.
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The Killer - New Restoration |
Posted by: jrodefeld - 2019-07-18, 08:01 AM - Forum: In progress
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Hello,
I'm a new member here but I've released a few fan restorations of old Hong Kong martial arts and action films over the past few years.
I've followed the "The Killer - Ultimate Edition" thread on this very forum for a while and I was disappointed to see that the project has been abandoned (for now).
I'd like to try a restoration myself and I've been seeking out the best quality versions that exist. I've got most of the important releases, particularly the Hong Kong Rescue DVD, the French HKVideo DVD and the Hong Kong Blu-ray.
However, I've been informed that the German E-M-S DVD has the best image quality. Then I discovered on the thread I mentioned earlier that there's a Scandinavian DVD by a company called "Scanbox" that might be even better. The member CSchmidlapp mentioned it and he mentioned that that particular DVD was supplied by another member on these forums.
I'd REALLY appreciate it if someone could supply that DVD to me so I could try to work on my custom version. If you could upload it to any file sharing platform, making sure to upload the untouched ISO or VOB files. I'd be willing to trade for it (I've got some pretty rare stuff in the same genre you might be interested in), whatever would be worth it to you.
I've become fairly proficient with some pretty advanced restoration software and I really feel I could create an excellent version of this film.
I've even been experimenting with some cutting edge machine-learning upscaling techniques that I'm eager to try out on this film.
Is it possible someone could pass along this DVD to me?
I'm pretty sure this is the DVD I'm looking for:
https://www.huuto.net/kohteet/the-killer-dvd/495072005
https://kuvat.huuto.net/v1/00e0/e011edd7...6-orig.jpg
If anyone has the German E-M-S DVD, I'd be interested in that as well. I'm only going on the comments of CSchmidlapp who suggested that the Scanbox release has a higher bitrate, or less compression artifacts.
Thanks!
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